Well guys I know you all like photos...heres 3 if they come through...The water outlet passage on this manifold was kind of wiped, threw some JB weld on it and will see what happenes...degreased it first and wired the death out of it to get all the minerals too... On the 3 photo you see the intake runner, note the small post in it, I think this was where they filled the mold with aluminum at the pour.., called a sprue, used in the lost wax process. Will have to grind down these babies, man its like a dead cat laying in the middle of the road. Tried the water based degreaser, not too hot, ended up shooting it with a few cans of carb cleaner. Will get the rest off when I sand blast it, Was getting ready to to duct tape all the openings when I caught this stuff, Also noticed there is a small lip on every runner almost like being held up against the head squashed out the metal to the opening of the runner...strange.. will take care of that when match the ports with the head. Really missing that Safety Kleen degreaser about now...That stuff must be really through the roof now in cost... will have to call them when I set up my parts washer soon..