Issues with "supposed to be new" trans

[Willy Mo]

Bought my 87 about 2 months ago. Guy told me he had the stall converter installed when te trans was gone trough and a shift kit. Well i had been haveing a problem with it kicking out of gear if i go WOT from a dig. This morning i decided to take it out and the shifting was taking longer then it usually does. I tried putting it into first and it was like i was in park?! Any ideas?

 

[tom robison]

If you pull into first and it does not go anywhere or is locked in place , sounds like it has a trans brake in it.


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[pacecarta]

kicking out of gear ???
do you mean downshifting .. its an automatic --it will downshift , get used to it or get a manual trans

now if you mean its flairing up the rpms as if it going to neutral...you need a trans rebuild
hopefully you have a BRF trans in there , and just so you know rebuild on a 2004r for a turbo buick really isnt something for the average trans shop ..it needs a knowledgeable guy familiar with what it takes to build a trans to live behind the torque of the little V6, more important if the motor has any mods to improve the output

and agree with Tom , 1st gear and no go it could have a stagerite transbrake in it

 

[Willy Mo]

kicking out of gear ???
do you mean downshifting .. its an automatic --it will downshift , get used to it or get a manual trans

now if you mean its flairing up the rpms as if it going to neutral...you need a trans rebuild
hopefully you have a BRF trans in there , and just so you know rebuild on a 2004r for a turbo buick really isnt something for the average trans shop ..it needs a knowledgeable guy familiar with what it takes to build a trans to live behind the torque of the little V6, more important if the motor has any mods to improve the output

and agree with Tom , 1st gear and no go it could have a stagerite transbrake in it

Guy said it was built, is there any easy way to check for a trans brake? And yes if at a stop and i mash the go pedal the car starts yo take off maybe a foot and kicks it out of gear like in neutral. Have to stop put in park and back to drive to take off again.

 

[pacecarta]

saw on one of your other posts that it only does this in OD not in D
could be a linkage issue with the column linkage or shifter cable linkage

for tbrake if you put it in 1st (dont do this while rolling ) and you can give it gas and build boost and not be moving , you have a brake , if so to release brake just pop handle forward to second gear or D and the car should go
if it has a transbrake dont hold it on there too long with boost as it heats up the trans fluid quickly

 

[tbone87]

Sorry to get in the o p thread but how do yall like the stage right break and are they hard to put in. U can send me a pm if u like. I have a billet trans but would like a break.

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[Heisenberg]

Try re-adjusting your TV cable.
The most common caase of ill mannered "new" transmissions.
Alot of people do not understand how to properly set them.
Do it before any flaring takes it out.

Easy adjustment.
I can send you what I thought was the easiest description of how to adjust posted by a well known member.
Many of the other articles get down in the weeds with pressures, gauges ,etc.
There is a simple way to set it and see if it fixes things.

As an added precaution - I for one would drop the pan and look see.
New filter and fluid never hurt any trans.

 

[Pronto]

Let's start over in English. Is this a column shift or a console shift? Next do you mean when shift from Park to OD and then try to accelerate hard without brake torquing the car will move forward some then stop like it's in neutral? Does it rev but not move? If it's in 1st gear it won't move either does it just rev? You may not be getting the transmission shift lever into it's correct detents or you may have more involved issues. Did this just start happening?

 

[Willy Mo]

saw on one of your other posts that it only does this in OD not in D
could be a linkage issue with the column linkage or shifter cable linkage

for tbrake if you put it in 1st (dont do this while rolling ) and you can give it gas and build boost and not be moving , you have a brake , if so to release brake just pop handle forward to second gear or D and the car should go
if it has a transbrake dont hold it on there too long with boost as it heats up the trans fluid quickly

does it in both OD and D.

 

[Willy Mo]

Try re-adjusting your TV cable.
The most common caase of ill mannered "new" transmissions.
Alot of people do not understand how to properly set them.
Do it before any flaring takes it out.

Easy adjustment.
I can send you what I thought was the easiest description of how to adjust posted by a well known member.
Many of the other articles get down in the weeds with pressures, gauges ,etc.
There is a simple way to set it and see if it fixes things.

As an added precaution - I for one would drop the pan and look see.
New filter and fluid never hurt any trans.

please send me the info thanks!

 

[Willy Mo]

Let's start over in English. Is this a column shift or a console shift? Next do you mean when shift from Park to OD and then try to accelerate hard without brake torquing the car will move forward some then stop like it's in neutral? Does it rev but not move? If it's in 1st gear it won't move either does it just rev? You may not be getting the transmission shift lever into it's correct detents or you may have more involved issues. Did this just start happening?

console shift. no if i come to a stop sign and i leave i in OD or D and i mash the gas it will kick out of gear like into neutral. will rev and not move. happened ever since i got the car.

 

[Pronto]

I'ld check the shift linkage first.

 

[SS/GN]

Broken tranny mount causing tranny to torque up and move shift rod that goes to column

 

[Willy Mo]

Also noticed on the way home today that i took a lot of throttle for it to shift into 2ndnor OD just cruising it would stay in low gear. Would that be tv cable? Anyone have a good link or wrote up on adjusting or replacing? Better to replace?

 

[TexasT]

Any way to know who built this "built" trans? Sounds like something isn't right with it.
Where are you located. You probably need someone to "take a look" at it.

As above, the 2004r for a performance application isn't for just any trans shop. It is an expensive lesson, but it is being learned over and over again.

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[Heisenberg]

console shift. no if i come to a stop sign and i leave i in OD or D and i mash the gas it will kick out of gear like into neutral. will rev and not move. happened ever since i got the car.

That's not a typical symptom of a mal adjusted TV cable
If it "kicks out of gear" - how do you then get it back in gear?
i.e. - What do you do at that point to make it move forward?

 

[Heisenberg]

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/tvcable.htm
TV Cable Adjustment

The cable with the two yellow lines pointing to it is the TV (ThrottleValve) cable that controls shift firmness, part throttle shift points, etc.
It is extremely important that this cable be adjusted properly or the tranny clutches may be burned up rapidly due to lack of pressure which allows them to slip.
To adjust:
1.With the engine NOT running, depress the D Button (it may be hot and/or difficult to press so I use a screwdriver or a key, etc) and grab the cable behind the ridges.
Pull it back toward the firewall. Then let the D Button go back to its normal position.
2.Get in the car, make sure the floor mat is not obstructing the accelerator pedal and firmly press the pedal to the floor just as you would going full throttle.
This should give you the factory setting for the TV cable.
See the ridges in the picture? Counting the exposed ridges will give you a reference point as to the adjustment.
With age, sometimes the cable has stretched a bit and we may find the car shifts better by depressing the D Button and pulling the cable back a notch for better shifts.
This may vary from car to car so don't get the idea that the four ridges shown on this car is the required adjustment for your car.
It should be somewhere in the ball park, however.

FOR STARTERS

 

[novaderrik]

the fluid is full and in good condition?

 

[Heisenberg]

the fluid is full and in good condition?

I think WillieMo is no mo.

 

[Willy Mo]

That's not a typical symptom of a mal adjusted TV cable
If it "kicks out of gear" - how do you then get it back in gear?
i.e. - What do you do at that point to make it move forward?

i put the trans in park and then in drive again and it moves fine.