Hey, it never hurts to ask! one day I'll get my hands on something really rare, just by asking if its for sale. Now you guys know the secret, ask, and be ready to take it right now if they say take it. Geoff and G-man both know about my recent finds..., so far no luck yet, except for the irate mom that wanted her sons car out of the yard so it would not kill the grass! I still need to talk to the son about that one...