Least inexpensive way to get my car in the mid 11s

[TurboMonte 2]

OK, why don't you just go straight to your bud & do THOSE minimal modifications you're referring to that he did for his 87 T--just "get-on-with-it" & don't put us thru all the suspense & agony & reinventing his wheel...

 

[strikeeagle]

OK, why don't you just go straight to your bud & do THOSE minimal modifications you're referring to that he did for his 87 T--just "get-on-with-it" & don't put us thru all the suspense & agony & reinventing his wheel...

Yup. Keep a *complete* list of *everything* u do and spend and let us know what it looks like when u get 2 low 11s. Keeping a complete list is the hardest part - if u get lazy I guarantee u hundreds (and hundreds) of dollars will slip thru your fingers. Oh, and good luck with your budget!

strike

 

[joemama]

250 shot.

 

[Powder]

Definately go to the "Spring cleaning list" to get started and I don't think anyone mentioned the cat should fall off.
MLH

 

[VETKILR]

I know its not going to be cheap, and what my buddy did was through definite trial and error but im just trying to save myself the time and headaches and prevent a lot of wasted time and money. I simply want recommendations from all of you, im not living in a fantasy world and think i can cut corners. I want to purchase the parts that will work and get me the best bang for the buck. My friend put his car through hell and it drove him nuts to get where he got it. I know ill have to do the same as nothing runs what you want it to the very first time. Im just looking for what you guys would do in a situation where i just want a quick 11 second street car, nothing more nothing less. Im looking for more or for less for proven combinations that have held up. I have no interest in building a bracket car or a car that will hit the track every weekend b/c my car wont. It will be a car simply to cruise on weekends and occasionally have fun on the street. If i have to pay more for what i want and to get the best so be it, but i dont want to dump a ton of money into a combination that sucks when i could have spent lost and got more. Sorry if it seems like im trying to cut corners, it definitely is not the case. keep it coming

 

[VETKILR]

ttt

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

I'm consistently amused by these lists. Hell, I just put over $100 worth of hose clamps into my buddy's car, but I guess you guys are still running the stock ones? I could go on and on, but those of you who've done it get my point.

strike

So which posts were your highlights :biggrin:


BW

 

[Quick6'n'-K.C.]

ttt

Over the past year ive dwindled my white 87 turbo limited down to a 11.76 with the stock parts.

It was done in 4 trips to the track.

I started with a good tune, set of slicks and racegas, and fair amount of mods, but the car itself is pretty much stock.

Once my white car gets the 61 turbo, convertor, and injectors with erics chip for 009s, i really think it ought to drop down to low 11s at the track.

On the street, as long as its not too much power for the tires to hold, and the car comes on boost quick, i will be happy.

You need to take your time with the mods, start with the suspension first, get it to hook on the street is worth at least .5 to 1 second. THEN turbo and convertor.

BW

 

[VETKILR]

ttt, keep the info coming the more input the better. sorry if i sounded cocky and a know it all, i just know what i want to get out of the car that is all, not trying to insult anyones intelligence or create a mockery of themselves. im in it for the fun and my love of turbo cars just like everyone else here. Thanks again everyone!

 

[whitehot1]

I would suggest a TE-44, TA-49 or one of the newer GT turbos, 60 lb injectors,340 walbro fuel pump and hot wire kit, K&N air filter, Turbo Tweak chip, Razor's alky injection,Hooker cat back exhaust,MT street drag radials,scanmaster2.

You should go to The Grand National / T-Type / Turbo Regal Buick Spring Cleaning Guide and do the spring cleaning to ensure the car is running right first. There is alot of good reading on that website.


Here is one persons way of doing it and it seemed to work for him and you should get the same results. It will also depend on your driving ability.

$1500 Turbo Regal Eleven Second Recipe

 

[ghall]

It is SOOO nice to see a thread were people actually say what it costs to run one of these cars into the high 10's/deep 11's---as with most cars--Not Cheap.


Geoff

 

[VETKILR]

thanks guys, more combinations, any other tips?

 

[strikeeagle]

$1,500, huh? Let's look at just the fuel system? A double pumper for low 11s. A hot-wire. An AFPR. Injectors. Did I forget something? How about a FP gauge? Oh, you'll borrow your buddy's gauge and braided metal line and fitting that he spend over $100 on, then just tape it somewhere? OK. Where we at?

How about a set of slicks on proper wheels? Approaching a grand including shipping and handling, mounting, balancing, metal valves and proper lug nuts and locks.

strike

 

[NCTURBOS]

If you pick a good combo. of turbo and fuel system along with a TH style Dp and can't run low 11's...

Here's my list that I used on a few cars that ran low 11's @ 118mph+:

K&N filter
Ta/Te61 w/Garrett .63 housing
009's
adj. regulator
XP+ pump
THDP
RA chip
Comp 980 valve springs
sticky tires
datalogger
exhaust system/cut-out

That's it!! Nothing more, nothing less. All else stock.


K.

 

[Steve]

I'd say low 11s are a $10K proposition. Now everyone will post that they did it for $1.95 on street tires with no scan tool, home ported heads, DIY alky, lots of junk yard and garage sale stuff, plus free labor from a dozen of their certified mechanic and welder buddies.

As a side note, I'd leave your bone stock, 1 of 1,035 Limited alone and do it with a ratty GN or the like.

strike

IMO it would be hard to spend $10K and only run mid 11's unless you are paying someone else labor to install the mods. I have less than $10K invested in my car right and now and it runs 10.70's on pump gas and drag radials. My car isn't junk and isn't cobbled together either and it drives like a stocker--that is until you get into it

 

[VETKILR]

ttt

 

[SMS]

If you pick a good combo. of turbo and fuel system along with a TH style Dp and can't run low 11's...

Here's my list that I used on a few cars that ran low 11's @ 118mph+:

K&N filter
Ta/Te61 w/Garrett .63 housing
009's
adj. regulator
XP+ pump
THDP
RA chip
Comp 980 valve springs
sticky tires
datalogger
exhaust system/cut-out

That's it!! Nothing more, nothing less. All else stock.


K.

Curious, how long did the stock transmission hold up? I didn't think they could take that kind of power very long if at all.

 

[strikeeagle]

Curious, how long did the stock transmission hold up? I didn't think they could take that kind of power very long if at all.

My guess is he had a converter, a cooler and the tranny built - another $2K - cha-ching! That's what I'm talking about - people forget everything they did to get low 11s reliably.

strike

 

[strikeeagle]

IMO it would be hard to spend $10K and only run mid 11's unless you are paying someone else labor to install the mods. I have less than $10K invested in my car right and now and it runs 10.70's on pump gas and drag radials. My car isn't junk and isn't cobbled together either and it drives like a stocker--that is until you get into it

Steve,

List every little thing you have on your car, EVERYTHING, and we'll add it all up? Yes, labor adds a lot of $$$ if you can't, say, build a 200-4R yourself. And of course if you took any shortcuts that compromise reliability, like using a single pump at your performance level, those would be good to point up.

strike

 

[Steve]

Curious, how long did the stock transmission hold up? I didn't think they could take that kind of power very long if at all.

I can't speak for him but if the trans is in good working coniditon it will last for a while in the 11's. My first GN had 72K miles on it when I bought it and it went 11.90's with less than $1K invested and the trans lasted for 31K miles like that unitl I sold the car and I ran it hard. That car had the stock converter with no cooler. It also had the stock turbo, injectors, intercooler(stock neck) and still had the elbow on the turbo.