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So, if say a nitrous bottle is not found at peer tech...is it legal then??

Anyways, don't all you guys all park under the Hartline tent? I thought you were all on the same team lol.

We are all after the same guys tuning assistanse. For me I love getting help from the fastest guys at the track. Don Cruz has shared some things with me that saved me allot of time figuring out on my own.

No your nitrous bottle or anyone elses is not legal Tony Pedregon, I mean Kevin B;) at any time. LOL


When was that determined? After he went through peer tech? After he made a qualifying pass? After he went home from the race?

Jan,
First of all you are wrong. Dick went 9.005 not 9.01 at Reynolds. I couldn’t agree with you more on the Fact that Dick is a great guy who is willing to loan his tools, offer any assistance he can, to help everyone. In my opinion he is a good natured guy that has one hell of a fast car. He has pushed everyone to step up their game, just as the tuff competitors before him did.
This is the biggest controversy I have seen since competing in TSM. I can see both views on this subject. There are several things that bother me about the way this went down.

Dick went through peer tech where the device was recognized. I was not at peer tech when peer tech started (we blew the rear end up the night before in our car). I am assuming the other racers recognized it and allowed him to attain the device because he went to the lanes with it. I do know he had advice from people to take it off. Dick is determined to do what he wants, and after confirming with a track official that it was NHRA legal there was no way anyone was going to convince him to take it off. It was obvious Dick had his mind set on one thing, and that was laying down an 8 second TSM legal pass.

It is hard to expect the official TSM race director to attend every event. This person has to do this on their own dime and the current economy had him in difficult situation. This guy is also expected to enforce all the rules. Without him it cannot be a level playing field. This is one of the main reasons several NASCAR teams hated Bill France. This would be a difficult job for someone like me to do. I think from a rules enforcement point of view the decision was made to set an example that cheating is not allowed (I may be completely wrong on this, only my opinion.). Without enforcement of rules it would be difficult for this person to have integrity. The part was not stock appearing and it gave a performance advantage.

The performance advantage was very, very, very small. After doing a rate* distance calculation in regards to the advantage which was gained from this device I calculate the advantage to be in the fourth decimal place. That is if it actually worked.

This is what bothers me. Let me set this scenario up. Racer “A” goes through peer tech with a controversial component on his car. Then continues to compete, and Racer “A” takes out Racer “B”. Then after the event is over the component on Racer “A’s” car is deemed illegal. Racer “B” may have had the second fastest car in the first round but got paired up with the only racer capable of beating him or her. Now Racer “B” is out of the race, but had the potential to win the whole event had the ladder fell differently.

I think the best thing to do is evaluate this situation and learn from it. Determine how the scenario I mentioned above cannot happen.
I know I am going to regret this post in the future. Things that have this much controversy always winds up making several people angry. These are my opinions and they have not changed from last year.

In life you learn and move on. All this will probably be irrelevant after Reynolds this year.
 
I believe the piece was pointed out at peer tech but was dismissed as a bracket that needed to be bolted back up before qualifying. I think that is the issue. Doesn't matter now.. Let's see the first 8 second pass in TSM, then we can start the 8 Second TSM list.
 
So, if say a nitrous bottle is not found at peer tech...is it legal then??

Anyways, don't all you guys all park under the Hartline tent? I thought you were all on the same team lol.


Kevin, I swear that bottle was just for extra weight.. :)
 
First let me say that Dick is one of the most stand up guys in the Buick community. He has loaned me parts even when he was pissed off at me.

As far as Reynolds last year. I never saw the piece in question because I had a lot of stuff going on at the time peer tech started. From what I understand, Dick had something on his car that he believes was legal and came to peer tech making no effort to hide it or mis-lead anyone about it. Not one person said anything or protested it in peer tech. A couple people did mention it to me after peer tech but I really didn't understand what they were talking about and I was trying to get my car ready to run and since they did not bring it up at peer tech I just dismissed it. He was allowed to make his pass and he set the record and went faster than anyone has before.

Several days later I understand the record was taken away from him. I gave my opinion prior to this happening which was the same the last time something like this came up, if he went through peer tech with no protests then the run should count. I can see both sides, and as far as after the fact DQs, It happens in a lot in all forms of racing. NASCAR & NHRA boys have wins taken away after the race for rule violations that can't be checked before the race. We have it too with the turbo rings which are not used until after a race. However in this case, I think it was something that should have been protested before the race or not at all. I helped run the race at Reynolds so I feel partially responsible for this mess, but I hope we all gain something from the experience. Make sure that we take the time to properly peer tech and do not be afraid to speak up if you see something out of place. If there were protests and Dick refused to take it off then I could see taking the pass away and I am sure that Dick would understand it too. That's is my .02.

Sully
 
01. 9.026 @ 150.11 Don Cruz 11/2/2008
02. 9.144 @ 148.89 Dick Kereny 11/3/2007
03. 9.355 @ 144.56 David Bamford 11/5/2005
04. 9.356 @ 143.95 Roy Garcia 11/4/2006
05. 9.385 @ 147.39 Jason White 8/2/2008
06. 9.403 @ 144.58 Scott Claridge 5/31/09
07. 9.415 @ 144.23 Toni Colalillo 5/31/09
08. 9.418 @ 143.87 Richie Balcom 11/3/2007
09. 9.452 @ 144.43 Phil McGloin 11/3/2007
10. 9.564 @ 140.33 Steve Sullivan 11/2/2008
11. 9.634 @ 140.87 Jason Cramer 5/18/2008
12. 9.650 @ 135.57 Steve Hughes 8/23/2008
13. 9.662 @ 138.17 Tim Lemay 8/01/2009
14. 9.670 @ 142.00 Chris Hogeland 10/15/2007
15. 9.716 @ 140.23 Tony Occhipinti 9/18/2004
16. 9.737 @ 137.23 Adam Calcotz 8/01/2009
17. 9.748 @ 137.25 Dave England 9/17/2005
18. 9.808 @ 139.75 Kevin Bolger 05/31/09
19. 9.822 @ 136.17 Cliff Bryan 11/2/2008
20. 9.902 @ 136.72 Scott Simpson 8/23/2008
21. 9.910 @ 134.00 Bill Zaher 8/3/2006
22. 9.914 @ 136.15 Jeff Rodick 11/2/2008
23. 9.920 @ 136.88 Don Palumbo 11/4/2006
24. 9.926 @ 137.58 John Sullivan 5/18/2007
25. 9.980 @ 134.00 Louie Lopez 1/1/2002



Looks like it is time for some updates to the list.

See ya, Kip
 
Scott, I am glad to see you taking interest in THS. It is a shame you sold your driver years back as you could have been racing in the class this past weekend.

BTW who ever does the list they need to include Art Frye as he an 9s at BG in 2008 and nobody has ever even included him. If memory servers me right I think his best was a 9.83(1).


Take care, Kip
 
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