Painting car.. How to remove mouldings and side windows?

[Wahoo]

I'm planning to paint my car, I'd like to remove the window mouldings but looking at the rear side windows that rubber gasket looks like it would get ruined on the way off the car... Do they sell replacement ones? Or do people tape them off, seems like they would be hard to tape off, let alone clean and sand near to prevent paint from pealing there.

Also how do I remove the windsheild mouldings and rear window mouldings?
Thx

 

[dwall]

MOULDINGS - Trim removal tools do the job easily. About $10 +/-. The right one kinda looks like a funky stamped sheet metal pliers if I remember right. Lisle clip remover from Amazon to Sears or Summit. Local Farm & Fleet had it for under $8.

As for the 1/4 windows -- aargh! Interior trim has to come off first. The windows are attached with some pressed self cutting speed nuts (I think - correct me?). The nuts run onto posts that go thru the body. That's the easy part? Windows are sealed by GM's favorite black body mastic - the stuff is nasty but will allow you to get the window out with some coaxing and some heat. I used a paint stripper gun (hand hair dryer style) to carefully warm the black goo. A little push and pull and walaa!

HTH - Hope I answered the question.
Bob

 

[Wahoo]

MOULDINGS - Trim removal tools do the job easily. About $10 +/-. The right one kinda looks like a funky stamped sheet metal pliers if I remember right. Lisle clip remover from Amazon to Sears or Summit. Local Farm & Fleet had it for under $8.

As for the 1/4 windows -- aargh! Interior trim has to come off first. The windows are attached with some pressed self cutting speed nuts (I think - correct me?). The nuts run onto posts that go thru the body. That's the easy part? Windows are sealed by GM's favorite black body mastic - the stuff is nasty but will allow you to get the window out with some coaxing and some heat. I used a paint stripper gun (hand hair dryer style) to carefully warm the black goo. A little push and pull and walaa!

HTH - Hope I answered the question.
Bob

Awesome, so you don't need to paino wire the side windows?

I just don't want to ruin any mouldings so I don't have to buy new ones lol. So the windsheild mouldings I need a special tool for? Can someone provide a link to what the tool is? What it looks like?

 

[dwall]

I think the piano wire technique is used for removal/reuse the windshield & maybe the rear
glass. As for the tool just Google " Lisle Window Clip Remover" (or pliers or something close to that). or check Sears website.. its gotta be there.

 

[Buhog]

Piano wire ? May as well use rock.
1/4 glass removal, remove the interior trim at the door opening( 4 screws) remove upper seatbelt cover then torx bolt holding seatbelt strap. Upper trim panel is slid under upper molding on roof. Pull away to remove 5 speed nuts holding glass. I use a 1 inch putty knife and using alternating locations pry a bit at a time to free glass. Pull off from outside, it's a mess. Rubber gloves now to remove black sealer from window and body. It's like making a snowball

 

[Wahoo]

Is it this?

http://m.sears.com/index-g.html#/productdetails/SPM10512184419?partnumber=SPM10512184419

Or this?

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0002BC05A?pc_redir=1396010492&robot_redir=1

 

[dwall]

My old computer just shorts out on your first link, but its not the second one. Like a pliers. I found it at Advance Auto Parts, Sears and more.

Lisle 35200 - This is it. Its MULTI-PURPOSE!!
http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/categories/browse.cfm?division=1&category=12

Like Buhog says the 1/4 window deal involves a number of steps but they just follow one after the next. That's how things got out of control on my project. - just a joke on me.

As far as the rock & wire strategies - just my cheap opinion here but windshield and back glass removal/install is a job for an experienced hand not a rank amatuer like myself.

Good luck - its worth the effort for nice paint.

 

[Wahoo]

My old computer just shorts out on your first link, but its not the second one. Like a pliers. I found it at Advance Auto Parts, Sears and more.

Lisle 35200 - This is it. Its MULTI-PURPOSE!!
http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/categories/browse.cfm?division=1&category=12

Like Buhog says the 1/4 window deal involves a number of steps but they just follow one after the next. That's how things got out of control on my project. - just a joke on me.

As far as the rock & wire strategies - just my cheap opinion here but windshield and back glass removal/install is a job for an experienced hand not a rank amatuer like myself.

Good luck - its worth the effort for nice paint.

Thanks for the help! I don't want to remove the windsheild or the rear window, but the small side ones I feel if I don't remove I will have problems with my paint job since the window rubber is pretty thick and flush with the body, If I tried to tape it off I think it would eventually peel from there.

My sisters boyfriend says he know a guy who will remove my windows for me for $50 and reinstall them for $50, so I might end up doing that for the front and back windsheilds.


So this is the tool? Seems like I don't understand how it removes the trim around the windsheild.

http://www.lislecorp.com/divisions/products/?product=196&division=1&category=12

 

[Phoneguy]

No need to remove the front and back glass, plenty of area to tape them off. You do want to remove the outer door moldings and to get to the screws the glass has to be dropped.

Bryan

 

[Wahoo]

No need to remove the front and back glass, plenty of area to tape them off. You do want to remove the outer door moldings and to get to the screws the glass has to be dropped.

Bryan

You mean to have the door windows down to get to the door mouldings?

Also there's a moulding thats vertical on the car body to the back of the door windows. Hard to explain but it has one screw in the door jam and it appears to be glued in place? Do I need a heat gun to get the lettering and door impact strips off?

 

[Phoneguy]

You mean to have the door windows down to get to the door mouldings?

Also there's a moulding thats vertical on the car body to the back of the door windows. Hard to explain but it has one screw in the door jam and it appears to be glued in place? Do I need a heat gun to get the lettering and door impact strips off?

You need to take the door panels off, then remove the window stop to let the glass drop below normal to get to the screws, or just remove the glass from the doors.
The vertical molding should come right off. The door edge guards I am not sure...I am still looking for a good set of them

Bryan

 

[Wahoo]

You need to take the door panels off, then remove the window stop to let the glass drop below normal to get to the screws, or just remove the glass from the doors.
The vertical molding should come right off. The door edge guards I am not sure...I am still looking for a good set of them

Bryan

What tool do I need to remove the window cranks?

 

[Phoneguy]

What tool do I need to remove the window cranks?

CRANKS.....what are window cranks?????? LOL
Any parts store has GM crank removal tool for very cheap

Bryan

 

[Wahoo]

How do you remove the window drip rails at the top of the window/roof area?

 

[Buhog]

A project within a project! Remove door glass weatherstrip to expose the screws that hold the w/s retainer. Be careful they are not glued but have foam tape that sticks pretty good. Once off there are 3 small screws holding the a pillar molding then the upper molding pulls down/ out and up . It's snapped on.

 

[Wahoo]

A project within a project! Remove door glass weatherstrip to expose the screws that hold the w/s retainer. Be careful they are not glued but have foam tape that sticks pretty good. Once off there are 3 small screws holding the a pillar molding then the upper molding pulls down/ out and up . It's snapped on.

I mean like the gutter looking channels at the roof, above the windows.

 

[Buhog]

That's what it takes.

 

[Wahoo]

That's what it takes.

Oh sorry when you said door weather stripping I immediately started thinking about what's on the door.

Thanks ill look at the car later

 

[Buhog]

You can get the roof rail off by fingers on the rail , thumbs underneath and pull thumbs down to release the molding but you'll still have the a post molding to deal with.

 

[Wahoo]

UPDATE: Removed the windsheild mouldings and the rear window mouldings. I Bought the tool from advanced auto that apparently is good for 10 different things including window cranks. Got them off in like 7minutes only broke one clip but I might buy all new ones to be safe.

Also removed the passenger weather stripping, and the rain drip channels, and the the front and rear weather strip channels since they covered the rain channels... alot of double sided tape? Where do I buy this or is it something people don't do once they reinstall everything?