Painting: Looking for a real deep Black what do you recommend?

[GNDriven]

I am getting my car painted this month.I have been looking at many black Buicks on line. Great looking cars. I am ready for my Buick to look good. I am trying to decide what is the deepest, richest black to paint the car with.

I know DuPont's 99 has a hint of brown in it, and DuPont "brillant black" has grey specs. I would like it so that you are looking into an abyss. Is there a manufature or color code that someone can recommend.
Just a good quality very deep black is what I am looking for. Thanks

 

[incubus2432]

Check out either Spies-Hecker or House of Color......none more black. Whenever I have seen a stunning black-as-night paint job it has been with one of those two brands.

 

[kh440]

House of Color definitely a good choice, but as far as "OE" blacks, either Lexus or BMW blacks are the deepest that I've seen

 

[turbonut85]

Are you SURE you want to paint it black?? Do you REALLY want it to look dirty 2 minutes after you wash it?? Black SUCK A$$ to keep clean!!! I have 2 black ones and I will NEVER own another one!!!. ---When it IS clean though...there is not another color that is more beautiful!! Good luck!! ...and don't listen to me...Paint it the color you want!!

p.s. I used DuPont and it's as black as it gets!!

 

[hiboom]

paint

+3 house of color I have painted 4 different cars with it.The clear is of high solids 3coats 4max unless your 3coats 600 sand then 3 more coats does not have the oem orange peal.lays down more like the old show car paints can be made slick as glass.

 

[Nasty Wendy]

Are you SURE you want to paint it black?? Do you REALLY want it to look dirty 2 minutes after you wash it?? Black SUCK A$$ to keep clean!!! I have 2 black ones and I will NEVER own another one!!!. ---When it IS clean though...there is not another color that is more beautiful!! Good luck!! ...and don't listen to me...Paint it the color you want!!

p.s. I used DuPont and it's as black as it gets!!

Black is either first or worst. My Lightning, GN, and motorcycle are all black. I'll have it no other way.

 

[mybuick]

i like the gm jet black. lok on a corvette or cadillac in the showroom and see.

 

[miz]

check out ppg triple black.

 

[Silver Fox]

Lots and lots of wet sanding will give you the look you want.

 

[413turbo]

ask any paint guy, black is black. sand and buff with clear. i'm about to do my car and will probably do black and clear, then wet sand and dust it black and clear again. will it be any different??? probably not,, but i want that deep black look also. house of color, if it's black is---any different- is expensive and hard to work with.

 

[getchasum]

i'm about to do my car and will probably do black and clear, then wet sand and dust it black and clear again.

Don't understand why you would want to dust the base back over clear, sound like you are painting it twice. The base needs to be uniform, by dusting the base, you are setting yourself up for streaks, light & dark spots, etc. Now I could see you applying several coats of base, a light sand, then several more coats of base followed by final clear. From a visual stand point, the base can be compared to a foundation of a house, it needs to be right. On another note if enough materials (clear) is applied on final spray I don’t see any gains (from a clear sand and re-clear) from that either. It sure isn’t going to make it any deeper. To much materials is just as bad as to little. Get your base right, and then make sure there’s enough clear to wet sand and buff.

Oh and back to the original post....My Iwata likes PPG.

 

[gbsean]

spies makes a Blue Black... it is FP2002...is the blue black...any of the "factory" blacks do have a brown tone.... FP2003 is what they call the deep black...the color I like best...and have been selling it for 10 years...BASF also has 55-1250 which is on my car now....PPG also has 2 grades of black 9000 and 9300....the 9300 being bluer....

 

[413turbo]

i'm using the 9300 ppg. this may be stupid, but i'm thinking if i dust over the painted clear and re-clear- that light will go thru the dust coat and bounce off the clear under it. and it will also give me a chance to fix any imperfections. i've spent 2 weeks now on gaps. i'm blocking alot, but i'm anal, the best is never good enough....

this one worked good, i put on window tint, and then a layer of mirror tint under it, came out great.

like i said it may be stupid, and i have not tried it yet, but it might work....

i spent a month getting a good mix for lights... (pic's in my avitar and sig.) they look black, and shine alot of light thru. even looking also. and no- i didn't put a little black in clear... it was alot of trial and error tho.

 

[getchasum]

but i'm thinking if i dust over the painted clear and re-clear- that light will go thru the dust coat and bounce off the clear under it.

this one worked good, i put on window tint, and then a layer of mirror tint under it, came out great.

It may but if base is not good and even that whats going to give you the streaks, etc.
Can't compare window tinting to paint. The tint has a uniform shade of color and you are not going to get that my dusting the base.

 

[getchasum]

Btw....your Cornering lights do look GOOD!

 

[413turbo]

It may but if base is not good and even that whats going to give you the streaks, etc.
Can't compare window tinting to paint. The tint has a uniform shade of color and you are not going to get that my dusting the base.

your probbly right, and i haven't tried this, but it is an idea i have-- i'm getting it from how some people have told me they would spray and sand lacquers back in the day.

not to hi jack the thread, but i want the deepest, darkest, black also.... like a bottomless pit.

 

[INEEDAGN]

You DO get what you pay for in terms of blackness. Buddy of mine had a black monte carlo that was painted with a high dollar shade of black, beautiful straight flat job, screwed up the trunk and quarter (junk in the trunk sliding around) and had it fixed with a cheaper black. The paint guy blended it well on the quarter but if pointed out you could see the area where it was blended. Cheaper black looked gray compared to the better stuff.

Rumor has it that going single stage (urethane enamel) will give you a deeper black because the clear coat has a yellowish tint to it and will muddy the blackness a little.

Then there was the time that my 94 acclaim got backed into and I pocketed the cash and fixed it with rattle can. Blended and sanded/buffed it and when it was done it looked remarkably well, but it kept dying back to gray about every two weeks.

Also don't forget to use a good clear that won't swirl and angel hair so easily. My biggest problem with a car that's been painted is the fact that it is not as hard as a modern factory finish and scratches if you touch it with anything. Some clears are worse about this.

 

[turbo nasty]

FWIW... Infiniti Obsidian Black requires Maroon to be added to the final mix. Most GM Blacks requires Brown in them so Black is not Black.

Just dont add any other colors to the black base stock to change the hue and youll be set cant get "blacker" than that...Run it by our "painter" dude

 

[Otto J]

Glasurit is what we used on my 87.
It was a single stage black and was wicked.
Glasurit is what Mercedes Benz uses

 

[gbsean]

Glasurit is what we used on my 87.
It was a single stage black and was wicked.
Glasurit is what Mercedes Benz uses

yep thats on mine...single stage....also OEM on Ferrari...Porche....