run your car on water

[Sal Lubrano]

I have been seeing this banner on our site for a while. I finally looked at it and it directed me to this site. Runyourcarwithwater.com The say a simple mod to your car will allow it to seperate the hydrogen and burn it in your motor. All parts can be found locally for under $150. They want you to buy the book. Has anyone done this and read the book?

 

[UNGN]

I have been seeing this banner on our site for a while. I finally looked at it and it directed me to this site. Runyourcarwithwater.com The say a simple mod to your car will allow it to seperate the hydrogen and burn it in your motor. All parts can be found locally for under $150. They want you to buy the book. Has anyone done this and read the book?

This has already been discussed at length about a year back.

You can make hydrogen all day through electrolisys, but there is NO WAY you can make enough hydrogen to "run your car" for more than a few seconds.

An $150 will buy more gas than "running hydrogen" would ever save.

 

[By-Tor]

I know they tried to do something like this on Mythbusters, but it failed.
What happened was the device they used couldn't make enough hydrogen to fuel the car. Now when they used some pure hydrogen from a tank right in to the air inlet of the carb it worked, with explosive results!

 

[Sal Lubrano]

I managed to get a copy of the book in pdf format. E-mail me if you would like me to e-mail it to you. Turbo1002@aol.com

 

[BlackMetal]

I know they tried to do something like this on Mythbusters, but it failed.
What happened was the device they used couldn't make enough hydrogen to fuel the car. Now when they used some pure hydrogen from a tank right in to the air inlet of the carb it worked, with explosive results!

Yup it was "busted" according to Discovery Channel.

 

[Chuck Leeper]

My ? is:
why is this BS even on this forum???

 

[BandAid]

My ? is:
why is this BS even on this forum???

YES WHY.........
theres even broke back mountain adds:frown:

 

[ChavoLC2]

Hydrogen powered BMW V12

An article on BMW's Hydrogen7 : Leno recently spent 10 days driving around in BMW's Hydrogen 7, a standard 7 Series sedan equipped with a 6.0-liter V12 engine that's been modified to run on either gasoline or hydrogen. Unlike a fuel cell vehicle that converts H2 to electricity, the 7 actually burns it just like gasoline. The hydrogen is stored as a supercooled liquid in an insulated tank located behind the rear passenger seats. (The tank is so well-insulated that if you put a scalding cup of coffee in there in mid-September, it would still burn your lips at Thanksgiving dinner!) All that insulation keeps most of the hydrogen at a chilly minus 423 F. But a small amount of H2 is constantly "boiling off," or vaporizing. When the car is not running, the excess gas is mixed with oxygen and vented into the atmosphere. When the car is running, that excess vapor is forced into the vehicle's intake manifold, where it is mixed with air and injected into engines cylinders to be burned.

This is a good article....

7 Energy Efficiency Myths Debunked - Guest Analysis - Popular Mechanics


7 Energy Efficiency Myths Debunked: Guest Analysis
The emotional appeal of energy independence is undeniable—it suggests freedom from foreign oil and, therefore, from foreign entanglements. But over the past few years, veteran energy writer Robert Bryce argues, the political players who are promoting the concept of energy independence have created a set of false promises to bolster their campaigns and give such independence the appearance of credibility. In exclusive excerpts from his new book, Gusher of Lies, Bryce examines the facts behind those promises.

 

[Scott-N-GA]

I managed to get a copy of the book in pdf format. E-mail me if you would like me to e-mail it to you. Turbo1002@aol.com

Is it a very large file? I might be interested in reading just for the fun of it.

Scott

 

[klrv6]

Woohoo!! I remember when BMW had the 740H at the NAIAS in Detroit. Very very cool car! Other countries have hydrogen generation systems that use solar power to run rain water through an electrolizer cell array giving H and 0, The H is stored in tanks and the Oxygen is vented to the atmosphere. The hydrogen goes in the cars and everybody wins.

I know of a few people who have seen significant (20%) gains by running some rather complex cells in their vehicles. Guess what I worked on today The idea is not to replace gasoline, it's to make the air going into the cylinder very volatile and then mix that with gas. I see it as more of a catalyst than fuel replacement. Just like when I ran propane injection on some of my cars. I know about farday's laws but, you can't argue with the success that some of these people are having. The myth busters show on mileage was a joke.

#1 there is no way that the electrolysis cell they tested could even run a small weed eater engine.

#2 The running on acetone was all wrong. It is 1-4 oz per ten gallons of gasoline. You must run some tests to find what works best for your engine. My suburban likes 1-2oz and nothing over 3oz or mileage goes down. It never hurts to try some in a few tanks to see if your vehicle likes it. My boss ran 1oz per 10 on our trip to Novi a week ago. His gain was 3mpg for the trip. He just made th same trip a week prior, filling up at the same station/pump. The myth busters ran a car on straight acetone....duh, of course that would cost more than gasoline.

Hydrogen Booster Free plans!!!!

Acetone In Fuel Said to Increase Mileage

I picked up a scan gauge2 off amazon and have been learning all kinds of stuff about my poor driving habits.

I plan on taking a trip to Cleveland in a few months, I can then get some real good numbers of how the Suburban does on a long trip again. Right now it gets no less than 20 on the highway. The most was 29 with propane injection. Just watch out for people scamming crappy hydrogen boosters that your could build much better yourself. .pdf please klrv6@hotmail.com

 

[Little6pack]

Too bad we can't run cars on Beer! We are good at that in this country. :biggrin:

 

[UNGN]

The hydrogen goes in the cars and everybody wins.

Actually if we replaced every car in the US with a "740H" nobody would win.

The H2 that boils off and vents into the atmosphere would be a bigger Ozone eater and greenhouse gas maker than CFC's could ever dream to be.

Of course it will never happen, so I'm not too worried about it.

 

[klrv6]

Actually if we replaced every car in the US with a "740H" nobody would win.

The H2 that boils off and vents into the atmosphere would be a bigger Ozone eater and greenhouse gas maker than CFC's could ever dream to be.

Of course it will never happen, so I'm not too worried about it.

It was my understanding that whatever H2 is vented will also recombine with oxygen to return to water? The EPA would never allow such a thing to happen if it would wipe out all the *progress* they have made for cleaning up the atmosphere.

 

[UNGN]

It was my understanding that whatever H2 is vented will also recombine with oxygen to return to water? The EPA would never allow such a thing to happen if it would wipe out all the *progress* they have made for cleaning up the atmosphere.

Hmmmm.... Where will it find these Extra Oxygen molecules to "recombine" with?

Hydrogen is light, right? Where do light molecules go? Up!

What is up? The OZONE layer? Where O3 is waiting to give up an O to make a Water molecule.

Good bye Ozone layer, While Water vapor is THE LARGEST CONTRIBUTOR TO THE GREENHOUSE EFFECT, so Hello greenhouse gas.

I'm Not worried about, however, because H2 cars are the result of Enron hype and nothing else.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

17. RE: 7 Energy Efficiency Myths Debunked: Guest Analysis
"Even if Congress mandated that the domestic auto fleet boost its average fuel economy to 44 mpg—a major increase over the 27.5 mpg standard in effect in ..." *** The joke is that the ACTUAL OBSERVED Corporate Average Fuel Economy for the Det3 is only ABOUT 18 or 19 MPG USING 2008 METHODS compared to the 27 mpg that has been the target since when ... the 1980s? *** HOW SAD! It sounds almost Anti-American!!!! Particularly since GM and Ford already selling vehicles in Europe that get 48 to 62 mpg(Imperial) [40 to almost 52 mpg(US)] combined cycle for several years

is this last part of the above statement true?

 

[fitz3820]

Outside of the anti-american part it is true.

More than half the cars sold in Europe are diesels and the imperial gallon they mentioned is larger than the US gallon so there is a bit of the MPG there.

Diesel has more BTUs per gallon than gas too. The European diesels are too dirty to be sold here in the US without expensive exhaust aftertreatments.

More diesels should be coming to the US market but they will be a tough sell with diesel fuel being much more expensive than even premium gas.

In general, diesel fuel in Europe is cheaper than gasoline due to lower taxes.

 

[Junior Samples]

I still stick by the Buttered Cat theory

Buttered bread always lands on the butter side and a cat always lands on its feet so if you put the bread on its back and drop the cat it will sit there and spin infinate.

find a way to harness the potential energy and there ya go!

 

[rmar]

saltwater1.wmv

 

[klrv6]

I guess I shouldn't run my hydrogen generator out in the open anymore... GM does have a car that runs on sea water. Not sure where it will end up but, they do have one.

 

[UNGN]

HOW SAD! It sounds almost Anti-American!!!! Particularly since GM and Ford already selling vehicles in Europe that get 48 to 62 mpg(Imperial) [40 to almost 52 mpg(US)] combined cycle for several years

is this last part of the above statement true?

in 1997, Bill Clinton's EPA mandated that Diesel Cars under 6200 lbs GVW basically needed to meet Gasoline Emissions standards in 10 years (2007) ... for the children.

The Europeans don't have to meet these standards until 2010.

Gas didn't start getting really expensive until late 2005, so just when there would have been a huge market for Diesel cars in the US, we weren't able to buy them (nobody was going to bring a car over for one year and then be forced to stop selling it).

Also, you can still buy a crapbox in Europe. You know, plastic floor mats, no A/C, manual windows, zero side impact protection, 1.3L engine.

Gas would have to be $10/gallon before I would buy a crapbox. I'll pay an extra $5/day to not be killed in a fender bender.