runnning shoes

[turbojitsu85]

Anyone here run alot? I run about 3 to 4 times a week about 3 to 4 miles a day on a treadmill after my wieght training at the gym. I needed new shoes because my old trial running shoes (NewBalance 471) were making my arch's cramp up so I went to the local New Balance store to get a new pair of running shoes. The salesman had me try on a couple pairs with diffrent types of soles. I went with the 766 runners with cork insoles. They felt great until I ran in them my arch's didn't cramp up but I did get a huge blister on my left arch. Is this part of the breaking in process or am I running funny? Should I switch back to the soles that came with these shoes or break in the cork ones?

 

[The Blob]

Is this part of the breaking in process or am I running funny?

You may well be running funny but there should be no breaking in process. With today's running shoes you can run a marathon in shoes right out of the box. More than once I have done a 15 miler on a pairs' maiden voyage with no problems whatsoever.

Try switching insoles and see what happens.

Is your arch high, low, or normal?

 

[turbojitsu85]

Normal to low I would say.

 

[tes87gn]

Running shoes

I have Sauconey's (sp.?) Hurricane 3-D's. I love'em EXCELLENT shoes for running!! Great arch support and will correct running form to the proper position.

 

[85 ttypewh1]

I weigh about 250 and i have to run for work i am a firefighter. So staying in shape in required. I went through shoes pretty quick, mostly new balance since they offer them in wide sizes. One day i went to a place called the running store where they measured my foot and made me walk around the store barefoot to watch me walk and then had me stand straight while they inspected my feet. After they were done they recommended the shoe for my particular feet. I ended up getting the brooks shoe which was a little expensive at 100 bucks but is the best shoe i have ever worn and the support is great and now my lower back and knees dont hurt. I suggest you go to a store that specializes in running shoes and will look at your feet to tell what will be the best.

 

[Evans Ward]

You may need orthototics. These are custom inserts made from your feet that you can transfer to your shoes. If you have a high arch, you may pronate (feet turn inwards) which may lead to improper form, incorrect biomechanics, and rapid shoe wear. I have run for 20 plus years and also have high arches. Orthotics, which I also use, can be custom made at some speciality shoe stores. If you don't have one, I'd suggest you call a local orthopedist or Orthotist for a recommendation. I paid about $75.00 for the pair of orthotics. High arch runners also need a shoe that provides stability. I have had great luck with Asic shoes ans use the Kayano series. To me, your problem sounds foot related and not shoe related. For an easy test to see if you have high arches, step on a towel after getting out of shower (or feet wet) and look at the imprint of your feet made on the towel. Do you see the full foot imprint or is it partial in the arch area? Good luck and I wouldn't recommend you put in heavy miles until you know more about your situation.

 

[6APPEAL]

I also run in Acsis Kayanos. I also weigh around 200, so I go through shoes pretty quickly. I ran track and cross country in high school and college. Trust me, I've run thousands of miles in pretty much every brand. You just have to find which shoe works the best for you.
John

 

[turbojitsu85]

I called New Balance were I bought the shoes and they said it could be due to the cotton socks so they sent me two pairs of nylon running socks for free and if that doesn't work by next week they want me to come back to the store to try a diffrent sole. This is the first time in a long while that cutomer service has at least made an attempt to satify a customer for me. Usually a place (autozone/sears auto/various resturaunts/dell) just say we're real sorry that your dissatisfied with our product/service and nothing ever happens. I think I'll stick with the New Balance shoe at least for a little while.

 

[The Blob]

I called New Balance were I bought the shoes and they said it could be due to the cotton socks so they sent me two pairs of nylon running socks for free and if that doesn't work by next week they want me to come back to the store to try a diffrent sole.

Trying different socks is a good idea. Although I hate them, nylon socks work well for some people.

IMO, these are by far the best running socks you can buy... but what works for one runner does not necessarily work for another so that's no guarantee. Still, they're great socks.

 

[6APPEAL]

Thoses are the exact same socks that I run in. I also wear them when I go skating or cycling. Price is the only killer. I've also had great luck with Thorlo socks. I get mine from Roadrunnersports.com.
http://www.roadrunnersports.com/cgi-bin/rrs/my_socks/msSearchResults.jsp?catOID=-12982
John

 

[Reaper]

are you a heal striker, Toe striker, do you pronate, supinate, what kid of arches do you have, do you know how to tell?


there are a lot of factors involved in fitting running shoes.


PM Me if you have any questions.

 

[turbojitsu85]

are you a heal striker, Toe striker, do you pronate, supinate, what kid of arches do you have, do you know how to tell?


there are a lot of factors involved in fitting running shoes.


PM Me if you have any questions.

After heal stricker and toe striker I lost you and as far as arches I did the wet foot to towel trick and I think I have normal arches. When I did the towel thing you really couldn't see much arch. When the blister heals I'll try the socks and if it still hurts I'm going back to New Balance. If any one has any good suggestions or more input on how I should be running let me know.

 

[6APPEAL]

Running style, or form is very individualistic. What works for 1 person doesn't work for everyone. If the problem arose with a new pair of shoes, I would suspect the shoes. If you've had similiar problems in the past, it could be a form issue. Using a good running shoe store is a major plus. They are willing to work with you on fit.

The owner of store I use is a long time runner. He asked questions and listened to my answers. He then videoed me running on a treadmill. We watched it replay in slo-mo. He determined that I knew exactly what I was talking about (long time runner, heavy, narrow foot, pronator). He measured my foot and had me try on about 10 different pairs of shoes before narrowing down to a couple of choices. I then wore the shoes side-by-side (one brand one foot, another brand other foot) to determine best fit and feel while running on the treadmill. Then he had me switch shoes onto the other foot. I liked the Acsis the best, not cheap but has been the most comfortable shoe I've worn is quite some time.

Terms Reaper was referring to:
Heal Striker - heel strikes the ground first
Toe Striker - toe strikes the ground first - think sprinter
Pronate - foot rolls in towards arch after ground strike
Supinate - run on the outside edges of your feet - foot rolls out

If you pronate or supinate you need a motion control shoe. I looked at the review of the 766 and it seems to be a good shoe, it just may not be the right shoe for the running you are doing. You said you were running in a trail shoe. If your still running alot of trails, you might want to get another trail shoe instead of a road shoe. You might also want to consider cross training more if you can't really resolve the issue.

There are several good free running sites that give tips. Just google 'running tips'. HTH
John

 

[Reaper]

feel free to PM me if you want,

I have run for jsut about all my life, I ran in college and coach at a local highschool.
6Appeal posted some great stuff.

if you need any help lemme know. PM me and i will help you where I can.

 

[Reaper]

oh also, make sure the shoe fits well when you buy it... dont buy in to the fact that you have to break in the shoe.... it should feel good from the 1st second you put it on..

 

[6APPEAL]

OK, this is kind of a hi-jack. Reaper, where did you run in college? I was at University of Mississippi (Ole Miss 84-89). Multiple stress fractures cut the running short, but still enjoy. I was a middle of the pack guy (at least for the SEC), 4:12 mile, 14:34 5k, 26:27 5 mile, 32:14 10k. Currently run about 20 a week, cycle about 80 just to stay active. Oh yea, have to add chase a 2 year old every day :tongue: !

 

[Reaper]

OK, this is kind of a hi-jack. Reaper, where did you run in college? I was at University of Mississippi (Ole Miss 84-89). Multiple stress fractures cut the running short, but still enjoy. I was a middle of the pack guy (at least for the SEC), 4:12 mile, 14:34 5k, 26:27 5 mile, 32:14 10k. Currently run about 20 a week, cycle about 80 just to stay active. Oh yea, have to add chase a 2 year old every day :tongue: !

I started at the the U of A as a walk on, Left after being Redshirted and getting a partial scholarship. I left and Ran 2 Years at Paradise Valley comm. in phoenix AZ, we one a few JC national titles. I ran the 100m 10.6 200m 21.x I dont remember. the 400m in 47.3 Long jumped 24" 9'

not to bad for a 5ft 8in white guy!

I am a lil younger then you though i ran from 1999-2002.

I now coach Track at Pinnicale Highschool in phoenix, Az

there are other things on my resume as well.

 

[6APPEAL]

Whew, quick feet. Best 400 I ever ran was a 49.7x when my high school coach had me as the alternate on the 4x400 relay. That was a long day, 800m, 1500m, 3000m and a leg on the relay. I was the distance workhorse on my high school team. Never ran anything shorter than 1500m in college. While I did improve my times from high school to college, the number of injuries just didn't make it worth it. I had 4 stress fractures in 2 years, verses no injuries in high school, not even shin splints or a blister. Going to see the trainer at 6am most mornings, then either running in the pool or riding the stationary bike sucked.

I thought about coaching, but I just didn't love it enough to put up with the low teacher's salries. I do volunteer to help my old high school coach alot with XC and track meets doing officiating.

turbojitsu85 - looks like there is plenty of help here if you need it.
John

 

[Reaper]

6,

I have broken my right leg 2 times and my senior year in Highschool I got hit by a car and broke my left leg, I have a Rod and 3 screws in it as we speak almost 10 years later. I ran 10.61 in college 2 years after breaking my leg!

wanna compare scares :tongue:

 

[turbojitsu85]

OK I'm a heal striker and a pronat. I got the socks yesterday but I wanna wait until the blister heals until I try running again. As far as running in trail shoes I've always ran in them because I thought they would last me longer and because I do a little mountain biking. As far as a breaking in the shoes the saleman never said anything about it I thought I would ask if thats what I needed to do. When walking in the shoes they felt fine but when running in them it caused a blister I guess I'll have to wait until the blister heals before I detemine if I'm going to return the soles. The soles are made of cork I can't rememberwhat the brand name is does anyone know about soles of shoes?