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fbodlovr

1/4 Mile Freak
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I just got the scanmaster hooked up on the 84 GN today. Here are the values that were displayed. I do know I have a pass. side header cracked, and the scanmaster showed a code 15 which is a bad coolant temp sensor. PLEASE help...This is also the 2.1

The screen once started shows around 734 0.0
AF 06-07
L8 40-42
INT 128
BL 128
CLT -39 Bad accouring to scanmaster
ATS 61-63
R 850-900
TPS .42-.44
IAC 64-68
CC 01 & 65 were what I saw two different times.

Im sure some things are wrong here.
 
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CLT is wayyy too low unless you are living in antartica or something ;)
o2's should fluxuate a lot during idle. Do some WOT runs on the first screen (o2 and KR) and see what happens. Oh...and check out that ect sensor. Could be the sensor or a wire or so messed up. HTH
 
Hey blue, i guess im still really confused. I see a few things that arent on that chart, and a few things are close like the l8 and lv8, the AF and then the MAF. Are these two things the same? Also, what is an ect sensor? Can you kind of edit my post, or copy it and put next to it what exactly each one is, and if it is reading good or bad. Also, what are the two numbers on the main screen that show up? If thats o2, isnt that WAY high?

One last question after you answer the above for me. I have a cracked pass side header like i said earlier. The most ive gotten the turbo to spike to for a second before it switched gears wat i think 8 or 9 pounds. Do you think that being cracked is making the turbo not spool up all the way and im losing boost because of it?
 
First of all yes fix that header leak, it will leak boost and cause sluggish spool.

Is your coolant temp sensor (ect or cts) unplugged? mine read negative when i forgot to hook it up. L8 is LV8 the engine load variable, basically a measure of engine load that is calculated from a formula based on maf reading, rpm, and a few other things that i don't recall. AF is airflow, same as mass air flow. they are just the truncated versions to fit on the scanmaster screen. make sure to take the readings at a warm idle in park. CC stands for cross counts, which is a countdown of how many times the O2 sensor reads rich to lean or lean to rich. It should cycle from 0 to 255 in a certain time frame, i believe a minute or so, which means that the sensor is good and active. Please note that it will jump up by several numbers at a time because the scanmaster can't update fast enough to show every change, and it would be hard to watch anyway. the two main numbers are indeed 02 sensor millivolts, they should read 780-800s or so at wide open throttle. the number next to the o2 (0.0) is the number of degrees of timing that the computer retarded the timing because it sensed knock. This should be zero or maybe a degree for false knock on the shift.

BLM and INT are your long and short term fuel corrections, respectively. The computer tries to keep a moving average air fuel ratio of stoich most of the time during normal driving. The integrator (INT) happens every few milliseconds, the (BLM) block learn multiplier is the long term correction which is essentially an average of the INT and happens only like a few times a second. There is a much better explanation on gnttype.org I believe . Pay attention to the BLM, the int doesn't matter all that much for everyday stuff. BLM ideally should be 128 at a warm idle and so should INT. High BLM's at idle indicate vacuum/ exhaust leaks. Maf reading should be about 4-6 (this is grams per second). There is some other stuff like IAC but I am out of time. A search for something like scanmaster numbers will find you what you are looking for before I can reply again. Also I believe the bulk of the info is on here or gnttype. good night.
 
You need to be checking readings when ecm is in closed loop (usually when engine is over 120 deg). On the SM 2.1 on the first screen if the decimal point between the 0.0 you mentioned is blinking then your still in open loop. Wait for it to go solid. That is probably why both your INT and BLM is at a perfect 128. With noticeable header cracks like you mentioned [and who knows what else] your BLMs probably will be a bit higher once in closed loop.
Also, in the C3I ignition system (what our cars have) that CTS is used for calculating iginition timing by the ECM. I wouldnt do any WOT runs until getting that taken care of and then looking at some #s in closed loop and making sure your values are where they need to be. Hmm, I could of sworn that if the CTS was unhooked or not working at all the car wouldnt start up :confused: oh well. Part # at A.Z. is SU109. Doesnt cost much and GM used/uses it on almost everything since mid 80's.
Look here for the info you need on the readings and what values should be:
http://www.gnttype.org/maint/quickref.html
 
ok, so really I need to let it go into closed loop, which I thought I gave it enough time to do. The dot was blinking.

Also, what is the cts? I dont see it there.

Oh sorry. Cts is the coolant temp sensor isnt it. Yeah, the car use to show the service engine soon light come on speraticly while doing some WOT runs before I got the scanmaster. When i got it and took it out, the service engine soon light came on, and the scanmaster showed a 15 code which was the coolant temp sensor. I put a new one in last night, im just waiting on a new fuel pump relay before I take it back out to see if it cured it. It WAS starting and running though when it was showing that code. You guys dont think it could be something else do you?
 
CTS=Coolant temp sensor (or sender whatever lol). ECT=Engine coolant temperature :) My 87 wouldn't start with it disconnected but you never know, some might I guess. Until figure out why it's in the negatives your car will never go into open loop.
 
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