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Turbo z28

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My speedometer is off by 20 mph at 80mph it reads 60mph, would this cause knock?
Turbotweak chip.
 
No. Incorrect octane causes knock, or false knock produced by parts touching/banging together that shouldn't be.
 
It very well could if the timing is scheduled by MPH. The engine is sensitive when the load changes on the 2-3 shift. A lot of complaints of KR there and people think it's false but most of the time it's not.


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Does the speedometer agree with a scan tool reporting what the ecm thinks the mph is? In other words, is the problem in the mechanical speedometer or in the speedometer gearing in the transmission, tire height, rear gear, and/or maybe the vss on the back of the speedometer? The speedometer is just a display, and isn't controlled by the ecm like it is on later cars, so it can fail without the ecm ever noticing. If the ecm knows what the speed actually is, it won't cause knock because of that no matter what the speedometer says. Getting the fueling right at the 2-3 shift is hard because the engine passes through that rpm range under two different operating conditions at wot, once when spooling up in first gear under light load and very rapidly increasing rpms (the load in 2nd gear is low enough that it acts like 1st gear on the 1-2 shift so for tuning you can treat it as two sets of conditions, not three), and once when it drops down to that rpm range under full load and slowly changing rpms at the 2-3 shift. Get it lean enough for great spoolup and you will get knock on the 2-3 shift, get it right for the full load conditions and it will be rich and spool slower in first. That's why the mph input matters on chips like the tt that use the mph to know which gear the trans is in so it can adjust the fueling for the different load conditions.

PS I'd like to strangle whoever coined the phrase "false knock", because everyone wants to assume that any knock is false when like Bison said, mostly it is real. Always assume knock is real until you have proven it is false, not the other way round.
 
Does the speedometer agree with a scan tool reporting what the ecm thinks the mph is? In other words, is the problem in the mechanical speedometer or in the speedometer gearing in the transmission, tire height, rear gear, and/or maybe the vss on the back of the speedometer? The speedometer is just a display, and isn't controlled by the ecm like it is on later cars, so it can fail without the ecm ever noticing. If the ecm knows what the speed actually is, it won't cause knock because of that no matter what the speedometer says. Getting the fueling right at the 2-3 shift is hard because the engine passes through that rpm range under two different operating conditions at wot, once when spooling up in first gear under light load and very rapidly increasing rpms (the load in 2nd gear is low enough that it acts like 1st gear on the 1-2 shift so for tuning you can treat it as two sets of conditions, not three), and once when it drops down to that rpm range under full load and slowly changing rpms at the 2-3 shift. Get it lean enough for great spoolup and you will get knock on the 2-3 shift, get it right for the full load conditions and it will be rich and spool slower in first. That's why the mph input matters on chips like the tt that use the mph to know which gear the trans is in so it can adjust the fueling for the different load conditions.

PS I'd like to strangle whoever coined the phrase "false knock", because everyone wants to assume that any knock is false when like Bison said, mostly it is real. Always assume knock is real until you have proven it is false, not the other way round.
im sure other things could be programmed in like remove 10% fuel until x mph. It's not difficult to program the timing by mph. Timing is what gets most in trouble. They are pussy footing around in 2nd gear and the chip is programmed for 25psi and 21 degrees advance. But they are actually at 27-28psi and heating the cylinder up and by the time they get to 1100' ka pow



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