Stock rear shoulder belts.

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    OK,
    I was on the phone with my belt manufacturer yesterday. What do you prefer...a 3 point shoulder with a retractor that can be placed on either side, and require drilling into the trunk floor, or a 4 point harness that will only require modifying the rear package tray area?
    The 3 point system would still leave 1 lap belt in the middle position of the back seat.
    The 4 point system would allow 3 harnesses to be bolted in.
    I need feedback so I can continue engineering and design. Once I have a finished design...I can send it to my belt manufacturer and have them run tests to make sure it will meet Federal highway safety standards. I will not sell it if it will not meet code.

    Lets get some feedback please.

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    I think the 4 point would be popular with my back seat passengers while they are younger. However the 3 point is much more practical and will look more natural.

    I vote 3 point shoulder belt.
     
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    Like I said...the only drawback is the 3 point has to be on a retractor. Therefore it must be bolted onto the lower trunk shelf. Not a lot of guys want to drill into certain areas of the car. The 4 point system would only require drilling into the rear package tray area, which is completely unnoticeable.
    Thank you for your reply.
    Please...let's hear others.
     
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    I'd be interested in this as well. Would the 4 point design be easy to hide when not in use?
     
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    NO. They would be able to be displayed very neatly vs the stock ones you need to push down into the seat crease.
    The 1st design is going to be a retractable unit similar to the one in a post earlier in this thread. The 4 point is still under testing.

    THESE WILL BE AVAILABLE VERY SOON GUYS.

    Thank you all for being patient.
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    Hello Guys
    I finally just got a completed kit for a 3 point rear seat shoulder belt with retractor.
    Now I must fit it into the car and make the instructions to install. This installation must past the approval of the company that makes my belts for me. I will get this done as soon as I possibly can so we can start placing orders. I want these available by the Bowling Green event in SEPT.
    I will post a complete install thread for this belt set up and now I am working on the design for a 4 point stationary mount harness.

    Thank you all for being so patient.
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    We appreciate the time you're taking on this! Thanks.
     
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    I am definitely interested in them for my kids 7 and 11 years old... Looking forward to the next update. Thx!
     
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    Well sad to say but the first kit does not meet my quality standards by far. It does work, but it requires a lot of cutting and modifications. I try to design my products to be no mods or very little. I am going to my manufacturer and see if they want to design different brackets or if I must design them and have them made myself.
    My front brackets are all my design which are the only ones on the market.
    I'll keep you posted.
     
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    Sounds great! Thanks for all the hard work!
     
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    Coach,

    Will the front kits work on a bench seat car?
     
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    Loving the shit out of this development. Three kids ages 3/8/9 and two turbo regals, one of which takes kids to school more days than not. I think I'd prefer 4 point if it can go in all three places and less work to install.
     
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    Was concerned about how tall the kids could be before the shoulders were above the belt mounting, which they say is a no-no. But I had my 9 year old pose for me (and she's tall for her age) and it looks like quite a ways to go before that problem. Even after that point, I still wonder if it's safer than a lap belt only though?

    I spent about $150 on a big car seat for my (then) 7 year old before the 16 power tour for this very reason. Still using it for the little one.
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    Yes and No.
    A split bench seat has all 4 mounting points. A full bench seat only has 2. You can add the other 2 mounts. There are companies that make them and you must weld them in. It's not a bad job at all.
    Let me know if you have a full bench or split.
     
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    I would put an adult in the rear and mark the shoulder height. I would bet more then most will still require a booster to get the shoulders to a height where the belt is sitting correct.
    I'm working on this because my 6 year old nephew loves to ride in my GN, so its important to me too.
     
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    I have a 60/40 split bench, driver side is power.
     
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    Then you can install my front 4 point harnesses.
     

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