TE-45A or keep my TE-60

[V8killR4U]

Will I notice a sustantial or in the seat feel of HP by simply adding this turbo with the addition of a stall change and injectors 57 lbrs' My goals are for a few 10 sec passes and consistant low 11's just by adding this turbo (Let me clear that up I mean the MPH for a 10 sec pass) No heads or cam up grades, im keeping it stock! what you guys think, is that possible? What i really want to know is will i feel the difference with this new turbo from my te-60?

 

[V8killR4U]

Tell me something guys, even a simple yes or no.
Yeah for the te45 with no heads or cam
or no? dont buy the te45a, just keep my old turbo?

 

[6 beats 8]

I went from a TE44 to a John Craig TE45A, and what a difference You will have to upgrade your injectors, and at least a 3500 stall converter.
Ray

 

[turbosam6]

I went from a TA62 to a TE45A, didn't notice much difference, except a more violent spool up. Your money would be better spent elsewhere.

 

[strikeeagle]

No way do you want a 45A with stock heads and cam. If anything, you'll go backwards...

Oh, and don't be surprised if it surges as you'll be so far off the design flow of that compressor that you'll need binoculars to see it...

 

[brian]

Go PT-61 And don`t look back.
You will be glad you did.

Brian

 

[1of1035]

I went from a 60 to a 45a and I love it. I also have heads and cam. I'd say get heads, cam and the turbo and hold on.

 

[turbov6joe]

Replaced my TE44 with a 45a and really like it...no problem thus far.

 

[postal]

I went from a TA62 to a TE45A, didn't notice much difference, except a more violent spool up. Your money would be better spent elsewhere.

Turbosam: A TA62 and a TE45a are both P-trim turbos. They both run P-trim turbine wheels. Basically you up graded the compressor side a little. No doubt in my mind that any gain you got was a splitting hairs deal.

I went from a 60 to a 45a and I love it. I also have heads and cam. I'd say get heads, cam and the turbo and hold on.

1of1035: Now here is a better comparison. 35' went from a turbo with the small O-trim wheel to one with the larger P-trim exhaust wheel. He was happy with his purchase. One of the main factors for the back pressure on are cars is the exhaust wheels. The turbos with the bigger exhaust wheels have less back pressure and pull better on the top.

I have run a TE44 and a T63E which is basically a TE45 just a different vendor. My 63 has more lag and pulls harder on the top both at the track and seat of the pants. I say buy a 63/45 that is a nicely sized turbo for a low 11/ high 10 second car reguardless of the heads.

HTH: Jason

 

[turbov6joe]

I agree 100% with Postal in that the TE44 to TE45a/63 is a dang good jump in performance...great top end charge! I had a TE44 with a stock TTA converter and it was fine on the street but gave me a tad bit of grief comming onto boost (10-15+ psi) on the line (even on a T brake). I had Eric Marshall make a bunch of fueling changes down low to help expedite the boost spooling and it helped, but still wasn't fast enough to bracket race with and be consistant. When I went to the 45a I also changed the converter to the unit in my sig and absolutely love the spool both on the track and street! The 45a pulls much harder in the higher rpm range but is tame enough to be a killer on the street. The 45a is also a big shaft turbo which gives it more durability over the 44 which is also a good thing. I've also run a TE60 and TE63-1 with good results...just so long as you have enough stall to complement them. That brings me to my last point in that, with anything combo, it's all about combatability...how well do all of the "parts" complement one another. Example, when I first got my TTA it was about 99.9% stock. I dropped a chip in it that my buddy Bryan W. had and it picked the car up a BUNCH. That same chip in his pop's TR slowed it down a bunch...complementing I say not. What works for 1 car may not work with another, it's all in the combo and state of tune. I think your on the right path just so long as you take the time to dial that new turbo in with the rest of the parts....good luck to ya!

 

[V8killR4U]

UNDERSTAND GUYS I DO NOT HAVE HEADS! REPEAT i DO NOT HAVE HEADS OR A CAM. YOU GUYS ARE SAYING YEAH IT S A GREAT TURBO BUT MOST OF YOU HAVE HEADS AND CAM. i WONT.

WITH THAT IN MIND, WILL I SEE A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE IN HP, WITH THE STALL CHANGE AND TURBO/INJ CHANGE?

 

[buickfreak]

I would keep the 60 and put the money on heads porting and cam . Your 60 Turbo will do a good job with that and 50- 57 injs with 3,200 stall, you need heads that flows alot more than stock units to drop in the 10's or consistent very low 11's without straining to the MAX the motor.

 

[strikeeagle]

I had this same discussion with John Craig and Harry Hruska. I have stock heads and stock cam. Both agreed a 66 MM compressor wheel (like the TE45A) was a poor solution. I decided on a T63E.

I'm talking about a track only car. For the street, I suppose a T63E is probably not as good a solution as something with a slightly smaller wheel, which should provide crisper performance. However, the T63E is the smallest of the big shaft turbos, so it has that advantage.

We are turbo crazy on this site. Anyone who claims a 45A is a good solution for stock heads has no understanding whatsoever of the compressor curves, and had better be willing to live with the thing bucking its brains out, or run ludicrous stall.

 

[V8killR4U]

Please more suggections guys!
IS the TE-45A to much for stock heads and cam. Is my money better spent else where.

And where should i spend that money?

 

[Russ Merritt]

Why can't you run mid/low 11s with a 60? Put 50# injectors in it, a 3200 stall 9/11 in it and be done. Save the 10 sec turbo for a 10 sec combo.

 

[V8killR4U]

If I restalled my converter, what effect would that make on my car. Would it spool faster. making it funner to drive which is what i want ?

 

[Russ Merritt]

It would launch better, lookin at your 60' you really need some help getting the car off the line. That should be in the mid 1.5s. 3200 should do it. Don't forget the 50#ers.

 

[V8killR4U]

Originally posted by Russ Merritt
Why can't you run mid/low 11s with a 60? Put 50# injectors in it, a 3200 stall 9/11 in it and be done. Save the 10 sec turbo for a 10 sec combo.

I have a 300 9/11 now would a 3200 make difference? Or maybe i should restall because i do defintely plan on the heads and cam next year? 3400 to much fo rthe te-60?

 

[V8killR4U]

Originally posted by Russ Merritt
It would launch better, lookin at your 60' you really need some help getting the car off the line. That should be in the mid 1.5s. 3200 should do it. Don't forget the 50#ers.

I mean yeah i mean my 60 ft sucks, I will have slic this year.

Will it make the car funner on the street breaking the tires loose easier?

 

[Raymond Bunch]

V8killR4U

I'm not one of the big boys yet, but I for one can honestlyy say I'm absolutly pleased with the TE45a. I'm also running a stock unopend motor and my goal is to be one of the fastest cars out there with out the cam and head mod, atleast for now.

Dare to be diffrent You may have use more boost to acheive your goal, but it can be had. And tuning as you already know, is always an issue.

Ray

Dare to be diffrent