Trans Cooler upgrade

[dynoman]

What's the turn-on/turn-off temps on the switch?

It turns on at 180* , not sure on the off .

 

[Pronto]

Humm, 4.5 amp is pretty efficient.

 

[~JM~]

160* would be better.

 

[NY Twin Turbo]

Humm, 4.5 amp is pretty efficient.

It's probably a Spal fan. Same stuff here. But I don't use a temp switch. I just flip the manual switch whenever I see things getting hot. Mine gets plenty of air when cruising. Usually in traffic I'll take note of the temps and flip the switch.

 

[dynoman]

Got it mounted up , it looks a little low but it's 2" higher than the intercooler pipes . The cooler & fan are rubber isolation mounted to an aluminum frame which is very sturdy and gives a nice platform to fab steel brackets to . plumbing to follow .

 

[achalmersman]

Very nice. I wonder if that thing has enough btu capacity to keep a non-lockup cool by itself (no liquid to liquid in the rad).

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[dynoman]

Very nice. I wonder if that thing has enough btu capacity to keep a non-lockup cool by itself (no liquid to liquid in the rad).

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Pretty close to it @ 46000btu , but since I have the radiator cooler I'm going to route it through it , and can also help the trans fluid come up to temp .

 

[NY Twin Turbo]

Very nice. I wonder if that thing has enough btu capacity to keep a non-lockup cool by itself (no liquid to liquid in the rad).

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If it as close to the Setrab as it appears, then yes. It most certainly does. He shouldn't have any problems.

I don't run any trans fluid through the radiator. Only the cooler. However I do get a good flow of air through the scoop when moving. Like I stated earlier, I'll note the trans temp with a glance of the gauge. Then I flip the switch for the fan when I'm stuck in traffic or on very hot days. If you don't drive the car in the winter I wouldn't bother with the radiator cooler. I don't drive mine in the winter, so I don't care about warming the fluid.
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Just a little extra thing to consider............

I must admit, I also have an ace in the hole.

I was in the mood for a little project a while back an this is what I did. I have a Tilton fluid pump under the car. This pulls fluid through a stainless filter in the pan. From there, it pumps it through a second B&M cooler with another fan in the back. Both the pump and fan are activated with the same switch. When things get real hot, like after a hard blast on the highway, I hit the other switch. Then all the fluid in the pan is circulated through the rear cooler in a loop. This cools things down quick. But what's even better, the trans can be cooled down in 5 minutes when the engine isn't even running.

Pictures below.

 

[seedling]

Pretty close to it @ 46000btu , but since I have the radiator cooler I'm going to route it through it , and can also help the trans fluid come up to temp .

Looks great man!! Did you happen to have a trans temp gauge before? Just curious as to how big a temp difference this will have over the oem / stock application.


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[seedling]

If it as close to the Setrab as it appears, then yes. It most certainly does. He shouldn't have any problems.

I don't run any trans fluid through the radiator. Only the cooler. However I do get a good flow of air through the scoop when moving. Like I stated earlier, I'll note the trans temp with a glance of the gauge. Then I flip the switch for the fan when I'm stuck in traffic or on very hot days. If you don't drive the car in the winter I wouldn't bother with the radiator cooler. I don't drive mine in the winter, so I don't care about warming the fluid.
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Just a little extra thing to consider............

I must admit, I also have an ace in the hole.

I was in the mood for a little project a while back an this is what I did. I have a Tilton fluid pump under the car. This pulls fluid through a stainless filter in the pan. From there, it pumps it through a second B&M cooler with another fan in the back. Both the pump and fan are activated with the same switch. When things get real hot, like after a hard blast on the highway, I hit the other switch. Then all the fluid in the pan is circulated through the rear cooler in a loop. This cools things down quick. But what's even better, the trans can be cooled down in 5 minutes when the engine isn't even running.

Pictures below.


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NY Twin Turbo,

WOW! Your car is a rolling freaking “Art Gallery” and it’s just as fine underneath as it is up top I’m sure! Folks you can throw the little blue pills away with Car Porn like this! Man what a master piece!!


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[dynoman]

Looks great man!! Did you happen to have a trans temp gauge before? Just curious as to how big a temp difference this will have over the oem / stock application.


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No , no gauge before . I really don't want to drop the trans pan at this point , probably put one inline for now , but I have to find a place for another gauge . I'm out of room . lol
I had a separate cooler before, a single loop with fins design & fan . Nothing like this monster .

 

[NY Twin Turbo]

NY Twin Turbo,

WOW! Your car is a rolling freaking “Art Gallery” and it’s just as fine underneath as it is up top I’m sure! Folks you can throw the little blue pills away with Car Porn like this! Man what a master piece!!


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Kind words. I'm flattered.

The first photos where actually taken just a week or 2 ago. The car is undergoing it's annual winter freshening. All the pipes are off and are currently being polished up like they are done every year.
Also, I'm in the process of a component reconfiguration for my new CNP TR-6 install. So, it's actually a complete mess right now. It will take at least 2 full weeks of work to clean it up in the spring.

This is the first significant change I have made to the car since the 400 install a few years back. And it's the first engine component arrangement change since the twin turbo set-up was completed more than 12 years ago.

I'm probably going to do a build thread on it in the spring. After it's complete.

 

[MCH86GN]

Kind words. I'm flattered.

The first photos where actually taken just a week or 2 ago. The car is undergoing it's annual winter freshening. All the pipes are off and are currently being polished up like they are done every year.
Also, I'm in the process of a component reconfiguration for my new CNP TR-6 install. So, it's actually a complete mess right now. It will take at least 2 full weeks of work to clean it up in the spring.

This is the first significant change I have made to the car since the 400 install a few years back. And it's the first engine component arrangement change since the twin turbo set-up was completed more than 12 years ago.

I'm probably going to do a build thread on it in the spring. After it's complete.

Now that's some spring cleaning. I certainly hope you have lift or at lease access to one. That is what limits me from a yearly cleaning on my underbody.

OP,
That fan is a nice set-up. Husek also built my trans, see sig., and he told be I would be ok with Hayden. My converter is a lock-up, however, it will not lock in 3rd per Husek's directive. Eric was able to reprogram the PROM per my request. I plan on adding a trans temp sensor in the future.

Good Luck.

 

[seedling]

Now that's some spring cleaning. I certainly hope you have lift or at lease access to one. That is what limits me from a yearly cleaning on my underbody.

OP,
That fan is a nice set-up. Husek also built my trans, see sig., and he told be I would be ok with Hayden. My converter is a lock-up, however, it will not lock in 3rd per Husek's directive. Eric was able to reprogram the PROM per my request. I plan on adding a trans temp sensor in the future.

Good Luck.

No doubt huh? He’s starting spring cleaning at a point that I would be tickled pink to finish even remotely close to. A lift is must with these cars and I still don’t have one either.

OP, This fan set up is the shitznel!!


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[MCH86GN]

No doubt huh? He’s starting spring cleaning at a point that I would be tickled pink to finish even remotely close to. A lift is must with these cars and I still don’t have one either.

OP, This fan set up is the shitznel!!


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A lift is a must, but in order for me to install on in my garage I would have to tear down and rebuild my garage. However, should I ever decide to move it really wouldn't raise the value a lot to my house because it was built in the early 50's and the driveway is between my neighbor's fence and my house is 8'. It's mainly the fences that are the issue, but I can't remove them because they're on his property. To this day I don't know how my buddy got his F250 back there and out without a scratch.

 

[seedling]

No , no gauge before . I really don't want to drop the trans pan at this point , probably put one inline for now , but I have to find a place for another gauge . I'm out of room . lol
I had a separate cooler before, a single loop with fins design & fan . Nothing like this monster .

Had to get on my computer to get a better look and finally noticed the L bracket (in post 25)? Did you make that or did it come with the kit?

Also, did you send Dave Husek a core, or did he build your trans with one he had on hand? And what kind of pan does your trans have? (Sorry, probably jumping ahead of your "plumbing edition"). And sorry for the million and one questions, as its just that my stock trans is finally starting to flare. So, I have to make some "upgrades" here shortly, whether I want to or not, hence the interest in your thread.

I was honestly hoping to get ahead of this crap as my plan was to have a trans built for it this summer. However, my car has a mind of its own and plans all its own as well (yes we have a love / hate relationship at the moment). But, once I get through this then I can really enjoy and play with the car again.

 

[dynoman]

Had to get on my computer to get a better look and finally noticed the L bracket (in post 25)? Did you make that or did it come with the kit?

Also, did you send Dave Husek a core, or did he build your trans with one he had on hand? And what kind of pan does your trans have? (Sorry, probably jumping ahead of your "plumbing edition"). And sorry for the million and one questions, as its just that my stock trans is finally starting to flare. So, I have to make some "upgrades" here shortly, whether I want to or not, hence the interest in your thread.

I was honestly hoping to get ahead of this crap as my plan was to have a trans built for it this summer. However, my car has a mind of its own and plans all its own as well (yes we have a love / hate relationship at the moment). But, once I get through this then I can really enjoy and play with the car again.

I made the L bracket from scrap box tubing & 10ga sheet metal I had laying around , The frame that the cooler & fan are mounted to is very sturdy and makes it easy to mount to .
I took my trans to Dave ( it was flaring 2/3 shift ) and he built it from the ground up , it had some billet parts in it and a Hughes deep aluminum already . Gave Dave a call he will take care of you , and If you go with a deep aluminum pan , see if he can have a bung installed for a temp sender .

 

[seedling]

I made the L bracket from scrap box tubing & 10ga sheet metal I had laying around , The frame that the cooler & fan are mounted to is very sturdy and makes it easy to mount to .
I took my trans to Dave ( it was flaring 2/3 shift ) and he built it from the ground up , it had some billet parts in it and a Hughes deep aluminum already . Gave Dave a call he will take care of you , and If you go with a deep aluminum pan , see if he can have a bung installed for a temp sender .

Good idea on the bung!! Thanks!!


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[NY Twin Turbo]

Now that's some spring cleaning. I certainly hope you have lift or at lease access to one. That is what limits me from a yearly cleaning on my underbody.

A lift is a must, but in order for me to install on in my garage

A lift is must with these cars and I still don’t have one either.

No lift. No heat. No power. No water. Just a rented space across town barley big enough for the car itself to fit. Can't even open the car doors inside.
I need to first spread the cardboard on the pavement, squeeze past it to the rear, push the car out, jack it up, and slide underneath. Can't even use a creeper. The surface texture of the ageing pavement is too poor to allow it to roll. Rain, snow, freezing cold, and even nightfall itself makes the whole debacle absolutely brutal.

I obviously don't live for much more than this. But I love it.

 

[NY Twin Turbo]

and If you go with a deep aluminum pan , see if he can have a bung installed for a temp sender .

Isn't there a port on a 200 where a temp sensor can be threaded in already? How about adding a temp port fitting in the cooler supply line?

I'm sure I had mine threaded into a port. It's been a few years though. Could I be remembering incorrectly?