Thought I'd put together a little right up on my experiences over the last couple months while installing my newly acquired TPro/ExtPro, and later I'll talk about the PowerLogger.
I had been using the Translator + and Extender combination since they came out many years ago, can't remember exactly when, but it seems for at least 8 years. And was able to post my best times and mph almost from the first day of installation (with a few trips for tuning).
So it was with a little trepidation that I finally decided to take the plunge into the Translator Pro world. And decided that while I was at it, to go whole hog and install it in speed density mode (no maf).
Pulled everything out, plugged the TPro in, (BTW, I highly recommend the plug-n-play adapter!!) But for the brave of heart that don't mind a little cutting and splicing, and T crimping you can save some $$$.
Double checked the hookup, did the TPro setup telling it mode to run, what MAP, etc.turned the key, and the car immediately fired, and idled smoothly (as it always has).
Headed out on the streets, and to my amazement, the care responded wonderfully!! No tip in, nothing.
So in the next few days I drove around watching my Int. (blm are locked at 128 in the ExtPro) and made only a couple of simple tweaks to get the INT to hover around the 125-135 range. The adjustment that I made is a feature in TPro called "main scale" which moves the whole fuel curve up or down. I only had to go 2% lean. I ended up having to add 3% of a feature called afterstart enrichment, and a few minor tweaks in the low and mid user tune settings.
I must add here that I have not yet gone with a WBO2 sensor, I'm still using my heated NBO2, and reading logs to make settings where needed. I know this particular O2 and know how to use tune with it (although this isn't as good as a WBO2!)
Now the goodies!!
The newest TPro software not only allows WOT wideband AF tracking but also has part throttle AF tracking so you can in essence use your WBO2 and control AF ratio across the whole operating band from just above idle to WOT!!!
Also, there is a closed loop boost control feature (which I'm using) that allows you to control boost from the MAP input, and with some flexible settings, the spool up can be greatly enhanced. It doesn't have the 2# boost drop in 3rd and 4th but I don't mind, since I'm able to run a bonified 20# of boost under all conditions on straight 93 octane, I like it just fine.
Another REALLY neat feature is that the TPro can now trigger my second fuel pump (in tank double pumper), there-by allowing me to ditch the hobbs switch (one less mechanical device to fail). And I'm able to control the turn on point through a setting in the boost control page. (Yes Bob, it works!!
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The Extender Pro still has all the neat features that I've enjoyed through the years. The one's I use regularly are:
cruise TCC
WOT TCC
Lean Cruise
I leave everything running in normal closed loop mode. Don't have the need for open loop idle or open loop all the time. Although when I do get a WBO2 in, I'll have to turn on open loop all the time, so the WBO2 takes control.
I love the speed density mode and so does my inlet air flow!!
What did I have to do? Remove MAF, Move IAT to up pipe to now operate as a MAT (manifold temp) for the speed density operation.
The Beautiful part of the Translator Pro/Extender Pro system is that Bob Bailey has absolutely nailed the Turbo Regal setup so that startup and run in is seamless!!
What you also get with the Translator Pro is a CD containing a program called Tuner Pro RT (freeware) which, via a serial cable :tongue: allows you to comunicate with TPro, do software updates via upload/download features, data log (although a little cumbersome) and monitor everything going on in the TPro with live gauges, etc.
I know I've probably forgotten something, so If you have questions, feel free to jump in or email.
PowerLogger: I installed it a couple days ago and all I can say is, I'm amazed. The install went perfectly, but a lot of that has to do with the fact I have been using Direct Scan so my PCM was already modified to receive the power logger which attaches similarly to direct scan, except that PL is a self contained board/microprocessor/connector that attaches in the same place as DS. It utilizes a USB cable to the laptop, and another cable to the really NEAT feature, that being the anolog bar (for lack of a better term). The analog input device has 5 inputs. 1 dedicated to WBO2, 2 dedicated to MAP input, 3 dedicated to EGT input (required an additional EGT adapter), 4 and 5 can be one of several other devices like (volts, EGT, Air Temp sensor, pressure 100psi, pressure 100psi-B, MAFT Pro VE%m MAFT Pro boost DC%)
It allows logging much the same as DS did (easy), can buffer back almost 20 seconds!!! so you wont miss a thing.
Has a gauge panel with 11 gauges!
Has a graph page with 4 graphs.
Has a data page with ALL the data being monitored, plus the BLM table, etc. etc.
In closing, even though the Translator Pro/Extender Pro is a "piggy back" system instead of a stand alone system like XFI, etc. I'm firmly convinced it has much the same power and flexability when running speed density with a WBO2 ect. There's not much you can't "see" or "do" with this system. And Power Logger is incredibly powerful!
The only thing I thought strange was that Translator Pro uses a serial connection to the laptop, while power logger uses USB. Since I updated to a newer laptop (XP) to run power logger, I found it troublesome to find a USB/serial adapter, but found a no name brand that worked perfectly (phew). BTW, it's getting incredibly hard to find anyone carrying a USB/serial adapter (where I'm at anyway).
I know, it's long and tedious, but I'm having too much fun now!!
I had been using the Translator + and Extender combination since they came out many years ago, can't remember exactly when, but it seems for at least 8 years. And was able to post my best times and mph almost from the first day of installation (with a few trips for tuning).
So it was with a little trepidation that I finally decided to take the plunge into the Translator Pro world. And decided that while I was at it, to go whole hog and install it in speed density mode (no maf).
Pulled everything out, plugged the TPro in, (BTW, I highly recommend the plug-n-play adapter!!) But for the brave of heart that don't mind a little cutting and splicing, and T crimping you can save some $$$.
Double checked the hookup, did the TPro setup telling it mode to run, what MAP, etc.turned the key, and the car immediately fired, and idled smoothly (as it always has).
Headed out on the streets, and to my amazement, the care responded wonderfully!! No tip in, nothing.
So in the next few days I drove around watching my Int. (blm are locked at 128 in the ExtPro) and made only a couple of simple tweaks to get the INT to hover around the 125-135 range. The adjustment that I made is a feature in TPro called "main scale" which moves the whole fuel curve up or down. I only had to go 2% lean. I ended up having to add 3% of a feature called afterstart enrichment, and a few minor tweaks in the low and mid user tune settings.
I must add here that I have not yet gone with a WBO2 sensor, I'm still using my heated NBO2, and reading logs to make settings where needed. I know this particular O2 and know how to use tune with it (although this isn't as good as a WBO2!)
Now the goodies!!
The newest TPro software not only allows WOT wideband AF tracking but also has part throttle AF tracking so you can in essence use your WBO2 and control AF ratio across the whole operating band from just above idle to WOT!!!
Also, there is a closed loop boost control feature (which I'm using) that allows you to control boost from the MAP input, and with some flexible settings, the spool up can be greatly enhanced. It doesn't have the 2# boost drop in 3rd and 4th but I don't mind, since I'm able to run a bonified 20# of boost under all conditions on straight 93 octane, I like it just fine.
Another REALLY neat feature is that the TPro can now trigger my second fuel pump (in tank double pumper), there-by allowing me to ditch the hobbs switch (one less mechanical device to fail). And I'm able to control the turn on point through a setting in the boost control page. (Yes Bob, it works!!
)The Extender Pro still has all the neat features that I've enjoyed through the years. The one's I use regularly are:
cruise TCC
WOT TCC
Lean Cruise
I leave everything running in normal closed loop mode. Don't have the need for open loop idle or open loop all the time. Although when I do get a WBO2 in, I'll have to turn on open loop all the time, so the WBO2 takes control.
I love the speed density mode and so does my inlet air flow!!
What did I have to do? Remove MAF, Move IAT to up pipe to now operate as a MAT (manifold temp) for the speed density operation.
The Beautiful part of the Translator Pro/Extender Pro system is that Bob Bailey has absolutely nailed the Turbo Regal setup so that startup and run in is seamless!!
What you also get with the Translator Pro is a CD containing a program called Tuner Pro RT (freeware) which, via a serial cable :tongue: allows you to comunicate with TPro, do software updates via upload/download features, data log (although a little cumbersome) and monitor everything going on in the TPro with live gauges, etc.
I know I've probably forgotten something, so If you have questions, feel free to jump in or email.
PowerLogger: I installed it a couple days ago and all I can say is, I'm amazed. The install went perfectly, but a lot of that has to do with the fact I have been using Direct Scan so my PCM was already modified to receive the power logger which attaches similarly to direct scan, except that PL is a self contained board/microprocessor/connector that attaches in the same place as DS. It utilizes a USB cable to the laptop, and another cable to the really NEAT feature, that being the anolog bar (for lack of a better term). The analog input device has 5 inputs. 1 dedicated to WBO2, 2 dedicated to MAP input, 3 dedicated to EGT input (required an additional EGT adapter), 4 and 5 can be one of several other devices like (volts, EGT, Air Temp sensor, pressure 100psi, pressure 100psi-B, MAFT Pro VE%m MAFT Pro boost DC%)
It allows logging much the same as DS did (easy), can buffer back almost 20 seconds!!! so you wont miss a thing.
Has a gauge panel with 11 gauges!
Has a graph page with 4 graphs.
Has a data page with ALL the data being monitored, plus the BLM table, etc. etc.
In closing, even though the Translator Pro/Extender Pro is a "piggy back" system instead of a stand alone system like XFI, etc. I'm firmly convinced it has much the same power and flexability when running speed density with a WBO2 ect. There's not much you can't "see" or "do" with this system. And Power Logger is incredibly powerful!
The only thing I thought strange was that Translator Pro uses a serial connection to the laptop, while power logger uses USB. Since I updated to a newer laptop (XP) to run power logger, I found it troublesome to find a USB/serial adapter, but found a no name brand that worked perfectly (phew). BTW, it's getting incredibly hard to find anyone carrying a USB/serial adapter (where I'm at anyway).
I know, it's long and tedious, but I'm having too much fun now!!
