He, like the rest of us, was banned for thinking differently, having different ideas, etc. norb would keep on coming back through trojanned computers or proxies or something so he wound up permanently banned. I would try to come on from work when I was bored working nights, and the only way to do that was a proxy, so it was seen as ban evasion and I was permanently banned. Also, I didn't lay down and let ekool bully me around. I cling? I don't want to have a thing to do with that channel, or its people. That doesn't mean I won't take an opportunity to point out people with no class, who think they're better just because they've been around longer.