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Michael McCoy

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Did anyone watch it last night? Also, is anyone going to #77 in Cinncinati next month? We'll be there, so let me know. Oh yeah, go Forrest :biggrin:
 
FOREST HAS A LOT OF HEART BUT EVERY TIME I WATCH THIS DUDE FIGHT HE LOOSES:mad: HE IS FUN TO WATCH THO. KINDA LIKE CRO COP. WHAT A DISAPPOINTMENT HE TURNED OUT TO BE.

CRO COP HAS THE TYSON SYNDROME..... VERY SKILLED, BUT LOST HIS CONFIDENCE. HE THREW (1) ONE EXPLOSIVE KICK THAT WHOLE FIGHT AGAINST GONZAGA AND THEN ONE WITH THAT TALL BLACK DUDE?????

THATS LIKE GRACIE GOING INTO THE RING AND TRYING TO OUT BOX LIDDELL? CRO COP'S KICKS ARE IN A CLASS BY THEM SELVES. THE ENTIRE WORLD THINKS HIS LEGS ARE LIKE LEATHAL WEAPONS, WELL I GUESS THEY ARE. BUT YOU CAN'T HIT THE TARGET IF YOU DON'T PULL THE TRIGGER? WTF? HE HAS TO KNOW THAT IS WHY HE LOST BOTH FIGHTS.... DID YOU SEE THE WELTS ON GONZAG'S RIBS THO IN THAT FIGHT? YOU COULD ALMOST SEE THE OUTLINE OF HIS FOOT ON HIS RIB CAGE. IMPRESSIVE!

HOW DISAPPOINTING HE HAS BECOME THO. MAYBE HE WILL GET HIS HEAD BACK AND RETURN BUT HE IS NO SPRING CHICKEN SO THAT IS DOUBTFUL.

I GUESS IT JUST GOES TO SHOW THAT THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN UFC AND PRIDE. PRIDE IS LIKE THE FARM LEAGUE FOR THE UFC.

CAN YOU BELIEVE SHAMROCK BENCH PRESSED 600 LBS. AND SQUATED OVER 1000 LBS BACK IN THE DAY WHEN HE WAS ON TOP OF HIS GAME! SHAMROCK AT HIS BEST WAS AS GOOD IN THE UFC AS TYSON WAS IN THE BOXING RING. IT WAS PAINFUL TO WATCH HIM GO OUT LIKE THAT. HE WOULD KNOCK OUT ANY FIGHTER IN ANY CLASS AT ANY WEIGHT TODAY IF HE WAS AT HIS BEST LIKE HE WAS IN THE 90'S. IT WAS ALMOST SHAMFUL TO WATCH HIM LOOSE THE WAY HE LOST TO ORTIZ. O WELL.

A LOT OF VERY GOOD FIGHTERS COMMING UP BECAUSE THE UFC IS FINALLY STARTING TO PAY THE FIGHTERS THE KINDA OF MONEY IT TAKES TO BE A WORLD CLASS ATHLETE WHO TRAINS FULL TIME 7 DAYS A WEEK. THEY NEED TO SPACE THEIR FIGHTS APART A LITTLE FURTHER THO. IT TAKES AWAY FROM BEING A CHAMPION. ONE SHOULD BE CHAMP FOR ATLEAST 6 MONTHS BEFORE SOMEONE HAS A SHOT AT HIS TITLE.
 
who won what? Chuck win? Diego win? (I figured Forrest would lose...he's awesome, but always 1 step off his oponent)
 
Jardine beat Liddell and Diego lost to Finch. Thats all I can remember at the moment. Check ufc.com for the other results. Liddell needs to retire!!!!
 
Oh yeah Forrest won with a submission in the last 30 seconds of the final round.
 
I went 0 for 3 on my guesses.... Jardine always has an open window when I watch his fight, Liddell is a monster, but seems to be finding worth oponents not whipping boys that are working towards his level, he no longer is the standard. Diego finally lost, and wow, I gotta see how now.
 
Jardine and Diego

It's amazing how different fighting styles can change a fight. Liddell usually waits and is great at countering ,he usually catches guys coming in on him with his looping hooks. Jardine is unorthodox to say the least. When he throws a right hand it is an overhand looping right he puts his head down looks at the ground and goes over the top. What was happening is Liddell would try and time his right hand when Jardine would throw his. Liddells timing was on but just as the punch would look like it was going to slam into Jardine face, it would glance off the top of Jardine's bald head. Jardines head was going down not because he saw the punch and was slipping Liddell's punch, but because that's how he throws a righthand , eyes closed head down. So fortunately his unorthodox style head down throw and pray was connecting while Liddell was just barely missing. Liddell would have been better off throwing uppercuts to catch Jardine as he put his head down and came in. Jardine used his kicks to the left leg and left side of the body to slowly chop at Chuck's core, he hurt him and took away the foundation that you need to throw a knockout punch. Jardine threw some killer body shot kicks. The Iceman was boasting about how he was going to knock out the Dean of Mean.

Pride goes before a fall a haughty spirit before destruction, the same with Diego he never used to talk like that, he was humble and down played his fighting talent, but for some reason this particular fight his Pride took over and that's a recipe for disaster. He even changed trainers as he had been working with Greg Jackson and had done well, Greg wasn't in his corner. The old saying if it works don't fix it, why he would get upset with Jackson and change what had been workin for him, yeah trainers can get you mad but it's for your benefit to get you motivated to get you to pull a little deeper. So he thought he was above what Jackson had been doing in his conditioning and training program and went and trained with another trainer in California. Well he got beat, what I didn't understand is he went and trained with a guy who is from a boxing/standup disipline, so he trains and works on his stand up, that night he mustv'e strayed from the fight plan, because in this fight from the get go he trys to take it to the ground . His opponent had good ground skills. Granted he had the guy in a couple submission holds but it was a little bit too late. Diego always seemed to do better when he pounded them first/ worked them and then once banged up submitted them. The pre fight interview Diego was so full of himself , couldn't believe it , it was no wonder the crowd booed him. Then after the fight, he tells the crowd not to boo him, he brung it on himself, it's a shame because he used to be one of the favorites.
 
I figured Chuck would have known Keith was going to attempt to kick him the whole fight, but some guys just wanna brawl (& loose) :eek:

Diego got the wind knocked out of his sails by Koscheck & Fitch sank his battleship all together!

Forrest will brawl with anyone, but that's hurt him in the past just like it has Liddell. Loosing to Tito was a ripoff & but he just underestimated Jardine (like Keith did to Houston "Nebraska's gonna whoop some ass" Alexander). Shogun (like Mirko) wasn't prepared for the cage. Choke on that Rua ;)

Anybody got any predictions on the Silva vs. Franklin and Slyvia vs. Vera fights?
 
Predictions

Now is it Vanderlay Silva who is fighting Franklin ? Vanderlay or however you spell his name... is he the smaller black guy that can knock you out with either hand and he uses alot of knees, doesn't he have a Muay Thai back ground? Well if it's this mulato looking guy he is awesome and will probably take Franklin out. Now if the other Sylva is Tim Sylvia(6'8") the guy Randy Couture took the Heavyweight title from then I would go for his opponent Vera. Ever since I saw Tim Sylva and the PitBull Kawlaski the guy with a mouthpiece that had canines/teeth they both reminded me of 2 cur dogs who were so scared of getting knocked out much less throw down/ one of the worst/boring fights ever. Neither guy was the same fighter after they got knocked out. That Koa/Rua dude didn't look so menacing, it was hard to believe he knocked the crap out of Rampage Jackson. Griffin took it to him , Griffin always bleeds has knots and shiners all over his mug but he keeps coming at you, he's what I'd compare to a Stumblin game pit bulldog. The man is Game.
 
Silva will beat Rich Franklin again but not so easily this time. I think Brandon Vera will beat Tim Sylvia also. Check and see who Randy is picking, he's pretty good lately. He picked Forrest to beat Shogun and has picked several big fights correctlly over the last 3 UFC's.
 
Chavo Wanderlai Silva is not fighting Franklin, but Anderson Silva is. There's too many "Silva's" in the UFC you know! Wanderlai (yes mulato looking)has been in PRIDE for the last 5 or so years fighting, but is now part of the UFC (as is basically every other MMA organization nowadays!).

Andre "the Pit Bull" Arlovski is on the way back up, so look for the "fangs" soon at the top of the heavyweight division soon.

Snake I agree with you on Randy being "all knowing" these days.

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