Oh and by the way the people at shoforum.com are still cool and about a third no longer own SHO'S but still check in for some good ole car talk .and just to clear one little tidbit up I am not now or never have been a ford guy .I bought the one's I have now in spite of the blue oval badge but lets face it a SHO is about as much ford as mercedes is a Chrysler .anyhow you alll should stop by our forum as you would be welcomed and also now that I am in the market for a rear wheel drive car I will be checking in here if that's ok