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real close races if you ask me-

i think the lightning let out, and then the torass passed him??

wonder how much they have into those engines?

BW
 
whatta buncha idiots!! They are ricers!! doing the ricer flyby and calling it a win!! ROTFLMAO> Not one of these SHO's beat any of their opponents.. jeeze.. How lame.
 
whatta buncha idiots!! They are ricers!! doing the ricer flyby and calling it a win!!

I have to agree. Who starts a race at 50 mph over and over. The whole video I was waiting for the good part.
 
rover2, you took the words right out of my mouth.
Maybe they are fast cars, but from this video, who can tell?
 
Do not doubt these cars, I know most of the owners. I argue all the time about the racing at highway speeds, but that is where they shine. The 'L' did get his ass handed to him, but knows he would have reversed the beating in the quarter.

The car with the video camera is a turbo sho, and the other sho's are supercharged. All of them I believe are in the 400hp range. I've seen a few at the track and they only seem to manage low 13's with traction issues. But they are deadly on the highway.

All the owners are over on shoforum.com and have a thread with this video in the 'boulevard battles' section. Even the 'L' owner is over there admitting the beating.

All nice guys and not ricers. ;)
 
That's some funny $^it! Yeah, those Yamaha engines are nice and all, but there backed up by a Ford tranny! Who would spend the money and time on such a car? It's a taurus for pete's sake. I don't care how much HP they make 13's in the 1/4 is aweful. Some people just amaze me.:D
 
Re: whatta buncha idiots!! They are ricers!! doing the ricer flyby and calling it a win!!

Originally posted by lrover2
I have to agree. Who starts a race at 50 mph over and over. The whole video I was waiting for the good part.


...SHO owners do:confused: they are considered top end cars:rolleyes:

the only thing i didnt like in this vid was the lack of sound
 
You know what, I've never seen any sanctioned drag racing event start from 50 MPH and lead to a winner. If you're going to race, do it from a stop light or sign and see who is king.

I hate guys who get out in front of you by a ball hair and then let off and say they won the race. Line 'em up for at least an 1/8 mile and then decide who gets the girl!

This isn't a new thing, it's been going on for as long as cars have been fast. I say, get a girl with large hooters to throw the flag and then race to win her!

Losers.
 
exactly. I love SHO's think they are cool cars BUT ALL this vids are dreamland vids. EVERY car they were running let off and the sho's stayed into it and these morons called THAT a win!! LOL thats ricer actions.. no doubt about it..
 
Gmachine- they are actually Mazda trannies.:p

Frank- you couldn't be more wrong. Speak with the owners of the other cars before making a decision. I would gladly run against these Sho's in the quarter, but never bet a wager on the highway.
 
the automatic trannies are Ford units..
5 speeds are Mazda.

I don't have to speak to the owners. I *KNOW* what a modified C5 could do top end to ANY SHO you can come up with..
Just because th eowners of the other cars did not keep thir foot into it over 135 or so does NOT mean the SHO's are faster.. Sorry.. dreamland.. Im not a kid who don't know better..



Originally posted by GotBoost?
Gmachine- they are actually Mazda trannies.:p

Frank- you couldn't be more wrong. Speak with the owners of the other cars before making a decision. I would gladly run against these Sho's in the quarter, but never bet a wager on the highway.
 
Somehow (call me cooky) I think what we're all waiting to see from the SHO boys is a video of a C5 or a Lightining in the other lane with their motor screaming for mercy trying to catch up but NOT being able to. I didn't see that while wasting those few minutes of my life watching that video.
 
I wasn't aware anyone called you a kid:confused: Frank. Believe what you want, it doesn't matter to me. But only believing what you see will surround you in a small world.:rolleyes:
 
no I was not saying that you called me a kid. I was mearly saying that only a 'kid' would be impressed by those vids. People who know better will see it as a joke. A ricer fly by race JOKE..:)
No hard feelings. Just a person who knows better giving his opinion..:)
 
I'm one on the supercharge SHOs in the video. Of course your entitled to your own opinion but our cars are much different than yours. First its nearly impossible to launch at the quarter mile with a 400hp fwd car. First and second are useless....thats why we race from a roll.

Both a supercharged SHO and turbo SHO beat the corvette that day. The corvette had an LS6 motor with mods also. The lightning like the GNs are stop light racing machines. He would have dusted us in the 1/4.

Yeah you can flame us for modding Taurus' but its also like calling your cars Regals.

Not trying to be a **** disrupter.....just telling ya why we race from a roll.

If anyone in Dallas/Fort Worth would like a ride....I'd be more than happy to give one.

oh btw I've only been down the track once. Bog the motor and ran a 15 at 110mph. Next pass snapped an axle.

Murph
 
Sorry, long post....

Originally posted by FlyinGN
exactly. I love SHO's think they are cool cars BUT ALL this vids are dreamland vids. EVERY car they were running let off and the sho's stayed into it and these morons called THAT a win!! LOL thats ricer actions.. no doubt about it..

Frank, how are you? I hope you do not mind me visiting your site and discussing some things with you. I am the 'ricer' in question who shot this video. I thought I might come and give you the story from my point of view (seeing as I was actually there).

First, the Lightning owner is a former SHO owner, and a friend. He accompanied us (the TX SHO club) on a little back roads drive the day before our track event (road course, not drag strip). On the way to the drive we decided to have a little highway fun. Perhaps not as exciting as racing from a dig, but being that we were on a public highway we had to use some discretion, and stopping in the middle of the highway was out of the question. That said, the L and I line up, and on a 3-2-1 countdown, the L goes on 3. He gets that big jump, I chase, and the result is what you see in the video. He never let off. You can speak to him if you would like to verify. His truck is very capable (1.6 60's) and would slaughter me in a 1/4 drag race. But he 'only' makes 418whp, which for the heft and drag of his vehicle is not enough to hang with even a lesser powered SHO on the highway.


I don't have to speak to the owners. I *KNOW* what a modified C5 could do top end to ANY SHO you can come up with..
Just because th eowners of the other cars did not keep thir foot into it over 135 or so does NOT mean the SHO's are faster.. Sorry.. dreamland.. Im not a kid who don't know better..


Please tell me frank, what can a modified C5 do top end? Please give me some hard numbers. I have spoken with a number of Vette owners, and have compared their top end acceleration times to mine. Perhaps you are aware of what a C5 can do top end, but it is plain to see you are not enlightened concerning what a boosted SHO can do on the highway. I gain 30+ mph in the last 1/8th (even 34mph once). That was with 380whp and 358ft lbs. I now am making 50 more rwhp and 54 more ft lbs. My 115 mph traps are sure to improve now. I have a better vid with better sound, and it is obvious that as soon as the Vette shifts into 4th I start pulling easily. It is also quite obvious in the first vid that I let out first, for as soon as I do the Vette shoots past because he was still in it. The owner readily admits that while we were fairly well matched until 120, from there up I was pulling decisively.


Your points about highway racing are valid. I would love to have some vids from a dig, and I will soon. But nearly 500 crank hp and 235/35 19in street tires do not mix well with heavy FWD sedans (3300+ lbs). 1st and 2nd are useless with any appreciable boost. I did not build this car to be a 1/4 warrior. It is set up for daily driving, fun weekends and for the 4-5 road course events I do each year. Some cars are better suited to the drag strip, mine is not one of those cars. Making vids of me roasting my tires on launch while 1.6 short time Lightnings scream off into the distant horizon does not sound like an enjoyable venture, but given your distaste for any other form of accleration contest except the 1/4 mile, perhaps that vid would suit you. I will look into making one.

Here is the link to a hi-res version with the music volume turned down. (sorry, link appears to be down right now)

http://www.shocago.com/staff/video/SHOfilm - low music.WMV

You can clearly hear the L and Vette engines, and you can clearly see that neither let off in the races. All the vehicles involved had a great time, there were no egos inflated or crushed, and we all talked merrily later over a few beers. Why people who were not there and know little about the cars inlvolved see the need to bash my car and this fun innocent video is beyond me. All in the group knew the Lightning would kill all comers on a dragstrip, with the Vette in 2nd place and the SHO's way off the back. We did not however know what the outcome would be in some friendly highway jaunts, so we wanted to find out. And we did. The red SHO beat all. Sorry if this does not sit well with you gentleman.


You have a nice board. I hope in the future I can add some insight to the intelligent discussion that goes on here.

BTW, I did not see my above friend's post until after I made mine. Please don't think we plan on having a bunch of SHO guys over trying to talk smack. Felt though that since it was our vehicles involved, a post would be okay.
 
Almost forgot. Here is my dyno sheet. For those interested, this is on a little over 12 lbs of boost with stock crank, rods, heads, cams, pulleys, TB etc. Car is running pig-rich, so there is plenty of power left in tuning, and when tuned I will be turning up the boost. Tuning, cams, headwork and 15-18 lbs should give me some respectable numbers.

TimothySHO-DynoGraph.jpg
 
nice mph Murph..
Sorry I did not mean to dis you but those vids looks bad for your cars.. The other cars let off and you guys stayin into it and called em wins.. Do you really think a modded C5 will not get by you top end?? An LS6 modded C5 should be a 165-175 mph car. Your cars are fast and i have always loved sho's but that vid did not do your cars justice..

No hard feelings.. :)

Originally posted by SHOMurph
I'm one on the supercharge SHOs in the video. Of course your entitled to your own opinion but our cars are much different than yours. First its nearly impossible to launch at the quarter mile with a 400hp fwd car. First and second are useless....thats why we race from a roll.

Both a supercharged SHO and turbo SHO beat the corvette that day. The corvette had an LS6 motor with mods also. The lightning like the GNs are stop light racing machines. He would have dusted us in the 1/4.

Yeah you can flame us for modding Taurus' but its also like calling your cars Regals.

Not trying to be a **** disrupter.....just telling ya why we race from a roll.

If anyone in Dallas/Fort Worth would like a ride....I'd be more than happy to give one.

oh btw I've only been down the track once. Bog the motor and ran a 15 at 110mph. Next pass snapped an axle.

Murph
 
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