what maf to run

[GN 420 T-TOP 87]

How do you know I need a new specialist ....?
I'm just asking a simple question.

Which is better. .....ac or car ....?
Preference?
just looking for advice.
No scan tool yet.
Not to sure what KOEO stands for .



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[earlbrown]

Because an actual 'specialist' wouldn't tell you a MAF can fix valvetrain startup rattle. (unless it was a bottom end knock... in that case a MAF won't fix that either)

KOEO = key on, engine off.


Plus, any 'specialist' that actually is a specialist, won't tell you anything without scan data.

 

[GN 420 T-TOP 87]

Never said that a maf would fix the vavletrain problem and neither did my 'specialist'.Cars been sitting for some time. Stuck valve possible....What he said was the car runs good but I need a maf .

Once again all I'm asking is which brand is better. ....
ac/car
No need for the scolding.

Anyone with 'decent ' advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. Again



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[hotairgnx548]

was wondering what everbody is running for a non stock maf have 4" with slot now, it has issues, going with smaller diameter, Eric recommended running a LS1, don't want to step down to 3" so I was thinking 3.5" but which one to run, stock or aftermarket performance
thanks for the replies

I personally like the larger diameter z06 and adapter that TT sells. I have used the LS ones but they are 3'' diameter. See Ya! John

 

[626gn]

Never said that a maf would fix the vavletrain problem and neither did my 'specialist'.Cars been sitting for some time. Stuck valve possible....What he said was the car runs good but I need a maf .

Once again all I'm asking is which brand is better. ....
ac/car
No need for the scolding.

Anyone with 'decent ' advice would be appreciated.
Thanks. Again



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eb is TRYING to help you...

Seems to me your question has been answered numerous times in this thread. I counted at least 8 posts saying Delco is the way to go and another 4 posts saying the reman (Cardone) stuff is crap. I don't think it could be anymore clear. Sounds like you're just waiting to hear what you want to hear.

 

[John Larkin]

Mass air flow sensor won't keep your car from starting. It may run poorly but it should still start. AC Delco MAF, I second the recommendation. Aftermarket just doesn't work. And you'll need a Translator also unless you can luck up and find a good original. I do recommend stepping up to the Translator.

 

[GN 420 T-TOP 87]

Sounds like 626 is is having a Bad Monday ....
What I want to Hear ... is someone talking with experience not a bunch of negative
Remarks .
All I'm looking for is a decent answer without the sarcasm.

THANK YOU very much Jonh Larkin for the answer.

There just questions people. ...lighten up a little.

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[earlbrown]

Sounds like 626 is is having a Bad Monday ....
What I want to Hear ... is someone talking with experience not a bunch of negative
Remarks .
All I'm looking for is a decent answer without the sarcasm.

Experience is the reason for the negative remarks. There was no sarcasm.

Here's the MAF you're looking for....

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/we...ed-cardone_5705266-p?searchTerm=mass+air+flow

They're 15% off and you'll get a $25 coupon for the next one you'll need.

Here's one last decent answer, without the sarcasm, one for you... If your MAF is bad, your car WON'T run right. Any 'specialist' worth his/her salt would know that.


Good luck with your car. I'm sure you'll have no problem finding people to tell you want you want to here in the future. Just keep plugging away and ignore all the people that's been doing this for decades. (there's the sarcasm you were looking for )

 

[TLIMITED]

Experience is the reason for the negative remarks. There was no sarcasm.

Here's the MAF you're looking for....

http://shop.advanceautoparts.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_mass-air-flow-sensor-(maf)--remanufactured-cardone_5705266-p?searchTerm=mass air flow

They're 15% off and you'll get a $25 coupon for the next one you'll need.

Here's one last decent answer, without the sarcasm, one for you... If your MAF is bad, your car WON'T run right. Any 'specialist' worth his/her salt would know that.


Good luck with your car. I'm sure you'll have no problem finding people to tell you want you want to here in the future. Just keep plugging away and ignore all the people that's been doing this for decades. (there's the sarcasm you were looking for )

Earl,You should stop wasting your time with people that already know everything and have their own "SPECIALIST".I can't understand why some people will not take free and great advice and not run with it,they would rather argue but I guess it's because they already know everything!!!

 

[psycho6cyl]

Who listens to.Earls advice? I only read his post for porn references ..

 

[earlbrown]

Who listens to.Earls advice? I only read his post for porn references ..

Careful, some of those actually are sarcastic. LOL

 

[turbo89]

Earl,You should stop wasting your time with people that already know everything and have their own "SPECIALIST".I can't understand why some people will not take free and great advice and not run with it,they would rather argue but I guess it's because they already know everything!!!

Because if they did everyone would be running 10's with very little parts and just tuning skills ... but most of the "NEW" GN crowd subscribes to "THROW PARTS AT IT" until they can fix it or go fast.
When you try to explain the value of a scantool ... they don't get it... why would they spend money on a non performance part right ?

I think Earl was just trying to save you from yourself

I think after years and years of seeing it .... it just wears you down and sarcasm sets in ...
I often ask .... "Geez how did you slow it down that much? "

to this exact example I had a customer that had a TTA MAF that went bad because of a few backfires because the plug wires / plugs/coil pack were so badly corroded.
told him it needed a translator and newer style maf and not to bother with looking for a factory original TTA / GN maf or a reman unit.

He was insistent on using a rebuilt Delco unit.. car NEVER IDLED or ran right with any of the 3 new reman MAFs he tried .. he finally gave in and had me order
a translator and LT1 Maf ... car idled like silk and ran like it should.

My guess would be 1 in 10 of the reman Delco MAFS would run near stock ..

In short .. save yourself time.. energy and just get a translator with your choice of original AC delco LT1 / LS1 MAfs and you will be very happy with the results.

 

[earlbrown]

Actually he shouldn't be happy with the results. According to him the car runs fine and the expert said he needs a new MAF....


I guess a new MAF will make it run even more finer ( <--- sarcasm).


Back in the old days the magic number was "12" with parts house MAFs. Waaaaaaaaaaaay back in 1999 or so (experience here for the not well read) when the only choice was a stock style, it took me exactly 12 tries to get one that ran 'ok'.

Traded it for a translator years later. Car ran better, idled better, got better gas mileage and got rid of wheelspin knock. ( <--- negativity or experience? hmmm..)

Granted I wouldn't have had wheelspin knock if I didn't have a scan tool (<---- sarcasm again)


He knows how to do a search because he replied to a 5 year old thread....

http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/wtb-86-87-gn-harness-and-ecu.225067/#post-3005681 but can't find a thread saying Cardone MAFs suck...


and it looks like the car has been gutted by fire along with needing new wiring..

http://turbobuick.com/forums/threads/why-does-my-87-gn-have-bench-seats.404040/


I just have to guess that this car has more issues that bad advice from 'specialists'.

I just hate leaving bad advice on the archives in case some body actually does a search.

 

[626gn]

Sounds like 626 is is having a Bad Monday ....
What I want to Hear ... is someone talking with experience not a bunch of negative
Remarks .
All I'm looking for is a decent answer without the sarcasm.

THANK YOU very much Jonh Larkin for the answer.

There just questions people. ...lighten up a little.

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My apologies if I offended you. That was not my intent but in rereading my post I can see that it could have been written with more tact. It was just that I read through this whole thread and the answer to your question was answered so many times in many different ways. Lol. Hope you can see beyond the sarcasm and find a solution to your problems.

 

[GN 420 T-TOP 87]

Hey 626 no problem. Sometimes my excitement turns in frustration with this car. Just looking to solve my problem.
Thanks

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[Heisenberg]

Earl's a good poster though.
I've seen him jump in and help many a new owner who was ready to rip out either his hair or his engine.
Granted - I may have to nominate him for a "bedside manner" remedial class.
But true - the number of tech help threads where everyone is almost screaming at the OP for 5 pages with the same answer - and they come back with "well do you really think ...."
I do it too though. Hell Bryan told me in post #2 I needed a new turbo, and it only took me 6 pages to prove it!
I think many of us need a vacation.
From something.
I told TurboClam last night - I don't know what's wrong with me - I suppose I need a life.
All I seem to do anymore is clean parts, install parts, re-install parts, work in the garage or read about Buicks.
Glad the holidays are right around the corner!
Maybe I'll go to the junkyard in my time off!

 

[626gn]

No doubt frustration is a part of ownership of any TB. We've all been there. Good luck with your issues.

 

[Heisenberg]

No doubt frustration is a part of ownership of any TB. We've all been there. Good luck with your issues.

"Issues" - LOL - thanks ( I think)

 

[earlbrown]

It gets extra frustrating trying to tune around inferior parts with a proven track record of not working right.

 

[GN 420 T-TOP 87]

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