Whats Better The F.a.s.t Or Big Stuff

[EightSecV6]

I sell,install and support XFI systems as well as BS3. I like both units but they have glitches just as many aftermarket parts have. The "no start" issue with the XFI is not a big deal nor is it an isolated incident. I have had 3 units that will go into "flash" mode if there is a low voltage spike (such as cranking with a weak battery or a high tq starter that draws alot of current). It is a simple fix, turn the key off and wait until the green LED drops out and try again. Is this supposed to happen? no, Will it hurt anything? no Do I know why it happens? no, but it should not! It is not really a big deal just something I have learned to accept.This is a small percentage when you take into consideration the amount of units we have sold. I have never lost cam sync or grenaded an engine due to a faulty ECU.If anyone has concerns regarding this, feel free to call me or shoot me an email, dont let this issue alone make your decision NOT to purchase XFI as it is powerful tool with alot of features and can provide excellent results.
I dont know the entire story behind Teds dilema but there was a sequence of events pertaining to his particular ECU after running his best pass ever that led up to a major engine failure. There was someone else at the same event where Ted blew up that had a no start issue as well but I cant remember who it was right now????


P.S. Ted you were way off on the time, it took over 48 hours!

 

[Razor]

I don't know a damn thing about this stuff, but a friend of mine that (according to him) talks to Kenny D. alot said's that Ken likes the Gen VII.

Ken actually likes Motec the best. I have spoken with him at length.

 

[SGRIM]

I sell,install and support XFI systems as well as BS3. I like both units but they have glitches just as many aftermarket parts have. The "no start" issue with the XFI is not a big deal nor is it an isolated incident. I have had 3 units that will go into "flash" mode if there is a low voltage spike (such as cranking with a weak battery or a high tq starter that draws alot of current). It is a simple fix, turn the key off and wait until the green LED drops out and try again. Is this supposed to happen? no, Will it hurt anything? no Do I know why it happens? no, but it should not! It is not really a big deal just something I have learned to accept.This is a small percentage when you take into consideration the amount of units we have sold. I have never lost cam sync or grenaded an engine due to a faulty ECU.If anyone has concerns regarding this, feel free to call me or shoot me an email, dont let this issue alone make your decision NOT to purchase XFI as it is powerful tool with alot of features and can provide excellent results.
I dont know the entire story behind Teds dilema but there was a sequence of events pertaining to his particular ECU after running his best pass ever that led up to a major engine failure. There was someone else at the same event where Ted blew up that had a no start issue as well but I cant remember who it was right now????


P.S. Ted you were way off on the time, it took over 48 hours!

Great post Bill! Makes me feel better about the XFI I have.... Thanks for the clarification from someone that sales both systems!

BTW, I am still trying to come up with something

 

[wbrophy]

Ken actually likes Motec the best. I have spoken with him at length.

The guy also said Kenny likes Motec but it costs more and is harder to tune for most.

 

[wbrophy]

:smile:

 

[1dmbth]

Motec, get your wallet ready. I wish I could afford one.

Does anyone know anything about the Electromotive System.

I see Nelson Racing Engines uses them with good success.

 

[Razor]

The guy also said Kenny likes Motec but it costs more and is harder to tune for most.

Agreed.. but if money were no issue.. and the game "they" play at.. Motec is chump change.

 

[baadgn]

I sell,install and support XFI systems as well as BS3. I like both units but they have glitches just as many aftermarket parts have. The "no start" issue with the XFI is not a big deal nor is it an isolated incident. I have had 3 units that will go into "flash" mode if there is a low voltage spike (such as cranking with a weak battery or a high tq starter that draws alot of current). It is a simple fix, turn the key off and wait until the green LED drops out and try again. Is this supposed to happen? no, Will it hurt anything? no Do I know why it happens? no, but it should not! It is not really a big deal just something I have learned to accept.This is a small percentage when you take into consideration the amount of units we have sold. I have never lost cam sync or grenaded an engine due to a faulty ECU.If anyone has concerns regarding this, feel free to call me or shoot me an email, dont let this issue alone make your decision NOT to purchase XFI as it is powerful tool with alot of features and can provide excellent results.
I dont know the entire story behind Teds dilema but there was a sequence of events pertaining to his particular ECU after running his best pass ever that led up to a major engine failure. There was someone else at the same event where Ted blew up that had a no start issue as well but I cant remember who it was right now????


P.S. Ted you were way off on the time, it took over 48 hours!

Bill,

Good post so if i read you right The XFI was not soley to blame for Teds mishap Thats great news for all the potential XFI buyers out their .lately there has been some bad things said about it. I think it was Chris Cairns that had the No start issue I think you now Chris I am pretty sure he KNOWS you, anyhow thanks for speaking up about the Xfi

 

[Otto J]

Bill,

Good post so if i read you right The XFI was not soley to blame for Teds mishap Thats great news for all the potential XFI buyers out their .lately there has been some bad things said about it. I think it was Chris Carns that had the No start issue I think you now Chris I am pretty sure he KNOWS you, anyhow thanks for speaking up about the Xfi

OHHHHH SNAPPPPP!!!!!!!

 

[Kip]

Tony, If I have correct information you have used both the Gen 7 and the XFI. Can you tell us what you found with both systems (the good and the bad) and what are you using today?
Thanks, Kip


1dmbth, I believe Scott Simpson used an Electomotive in the past you might want to get ahold of him.
Hope this helps, Kip

 

[S2V6RACER]

Bill,

Good post so if i read you right The XFI was not soley to blame for Teds mishap Thats great news for all the potential XFI buyers out their .lately there has been some bad things said about it. I think it was Chris Cairns that had the No start issue I think you now Chris I am pretty sure he KNOWS you, anyhow thanks for speaking up about the Xfi

Tony the FACTS are the box was defective causing a timing timing issue, which caused a cross fire in the cap and pre-ignited 1,3,5. That is a fact. Now the statement that the box isn't SOLELY to blame may actually be more accurate statement though.


I would like to have had a copy of that BETA flash #37 to test MY THEORY on what really happened, but Cal was not willing to send me that flash to prove (To the customers eyes) one way or another what took mine out was actually a problem with the BETA flash or the box, but I was assured from Lance Ward that there wasn't any way the FLASH #37 could have caused the problem I had so I just have to believe what he said.

 

[EightSecV6]

Bill,

Good post so if i read you right The XFI was not soley to blame for Teds mishap

That is my opinion Tony, just as it is my opinion that the XFI is not soley to blame for your car not runnuing anywhere near the earth shattering times you are so desperately hanging on to from 6 years ago that you ran with the Gen7 and Job Spetter at the helm.

 

[HighPSI]

I would like to have had a copy of that BETA flash #37 to test MY THEORY on what really happened, but Cal was not willing to send me that flash to prove (To the customers eyes) one way or another what took mine out was actually a problem with the BETA flash or the box, but I was assured from Lance Ward that there wasn't any way the FLASH #37 could have caused the problem I had so I just have to believe what he said.

It's not that I am not willing to send you the flash. I don't have the file of flash 37.

We sell and support 4 systems for the Buicks:
The XFI, the Classic FAST, the BS3, and the Accel Gen7 (authorized EMIC). All 4 systems have their pros and cons. Like Nick stated earlier, buy the system from the vendor that will give you the support you need. I am always sending out start-up programs to people who "got a deal" on a system from someone else and want me to help them. Since I charge for this service, how much money did the customer really save?

countrybumpkin: I will call you back (again) this morning

 

[S2V6RACER]

It's not that I am not willing to send you the flash. I don't have the file of flash 37.

What changed since the last time we talked?

 

[Otto J]

It's not that I am not willing to send you the flash. I don't have the file of flash 37.

We sell and support 4 systems for the Buicks:
The XFI, the Classic FAST, the BS3, and the Accel Gen7 (authorized EMIC). All 4 systems have their pros and cons. Like Nick stated earlier, buy the system from the vendor that will give you the support you need. I am always sending out start-up programs to people who "got a deal" on a system from someone else and want me to help them. Since I charge for this service, how much money did the customer really save?

countrybumpkin: I will call you back (again) this morning

I have a copy,Whats the high bid?

 

[SGRIM]

Before this erupts, lets all take a deep CHILLing breath, and get back to the topic. THIS IS TECH!!!!

There are a few personal conflicts out of the last 24hrs worth of posts in this thread. Please take that to PM or if you must T6P!

Not trying to censor anything just trying to aviod 2 or 3 wars on TurboBuick

Thanks:biggrin:

 

[Otto J]

What changed since the last time we talked?

A lot of things changed since the last time you took one of his attempts to call you FUR SURE.

 

[S2V6RACER]

A lot of things changed since the last time you took one of his attempts to call you FUR SURE.

Maybe Cal can chime in and answer my question and not you.

 

[Otto J]

Maybe you an remove my name from your signature?

 

[baadgn]

Tony, If I have correct information you have used both the Gen 7 and the XFI. Can you tell us what you found with both systems (the good and the bad) and what are you using today?
Thanks, Kip


1dmbth, I believe Scott Simpson used an Electomotive in the past you might want to get ahold of him.
Hope this helps, Kip

Kip,

I have run both in my stage car The Gen7 ran 8.48 on radials with a 5.30s@
136+ in the 1/8th. The XFI has gone a best of 8.51 but has run 5.17@140+ in the 1/8 with slicks so i have made more power with the XFI but ran faster with the Gen7 I did run more boost on the 5.17 pass so its not apples to apples They are both great systems Job Spetter Jr is awesome!! with the Gen7 and Cal's work speaks volumes!! I can tell you the car starts much better with the Xfi than the Gen7. I don't have any thing negetive to say about either system. The Xfi is in my stage car the Gen7 is in my Tsm car and the Gen8 will be going in my 65 malibu