Who has the fastest TSO car?

[Otto J]

These are off the GSCA site

2005 TSO - Turbo Street Outlaw Race Rules
Official 10/01/2004

GENERAL
Qualifying ET is 9.99 or quicker.
Heads-up .400 pro tree start and pro ladder.
Winner and runner-up are subject to re-weigh and re-tech immediately after final round or at any other time.
Entrants caught breaking the rules will be disqualified from the TSO class.

CHASSIS
Current NHRA certified seat restraints, helmet and fire suit required
Car must be NHRA certified
Car should possess all applicable safety equipment for potential ET/speeds attained
Minimum car weight w/driver must be 3,400 pounds
Removable ballast is limited to 100 pounds maximum
Stock wheelbase required (108.0" measured)
Engine/firewall must be in stock location
Factory stock body lines/contours must be maintained (i.e. hood, doors, fenders, wheel openings, bumpers, trunk lid, etc)
Any fiberglass or carbon fiber body panels, bumpers, etc. allowed, no hood scoops
Complete, painted Buick Turbo Regal/Grand National body only required
Stock operating glass windows and windshield are required, no lexan
***Lights and horn must be operational
Stock front inner wheel wells required
Full stock GM frame is required, no tube chassis cars are allowed
Modifications to stock rear wheel wells allowed, mini-tubs are allowed
Outer frame rails notching allowed, inner rails remain in the stock location
Reinforcements at inner rear frame rails are allowed
Stock style rear suspension only, no ladder bars or aftermarket 4 links allowed
***Coil-over rear shocks mounted in the stock location(s) only are allowed
Drive shaft safety loop required
No restrictions on braking system, power or manual brakes are allowed
Brake system line locks allowed
Wheelie bars are allowed
Parachutes are required for trap speeds in excess of 150 mph

ENGINE
Any Buick V6 cylinder block allowed, no cubic inch displacement limits.
Any oil pan allowed, no dry sump oiling system allowed.
Any cylinder heads, allowed.
Any intake manifold and plenum allowed.
Any size single stock or aftermarket throttle body allowed w/single throttle plate only.
Any type of stock location headers & crossover allowed.
No restrictions on engine driven accessories; i.e. alternator, water pump, p/s, etc.
A/C and heating equipment may be removed.

TURBO, DOWNPIPE & INTERCOOLER
Any single 3-bolt or 4-bolt stock location turbo allowed. Turbo compressor size limited up to and including 88mm. No “Thumper” style turbo is allowed
A 4”maximum size, stock location downpipe is allowed w/ a 5" inlet/transition at the turbo reduced down to 4” immediately after the 90* elbow at the turbo exit. It must be routed down through the stock location. No flex pipe allowed
A 4”maximum size single or dual exhaust system is allowed. It must muffle and exit at/behind the rear axle tube(s), away from the car, equal to the lower body line
***Any wastegate configuration allowed
Any stock location or front mount air to air intercooler is allowed
No liquid intercoolers, intercooler external spray cooling or add-on cold boxes allowed

ENGINE MANAGEMENT & FUEL SYSTEM
Battery may be in any location.
Any ECM/fuel management system is allowed w/ any onboard electronics are allowed
Any air induction system allowed
Stock fuel tank w/sump addition or fuel cell allowed
Any fuel pump(s) configuration/location w/ any fuel lines allowed
Any fuel rail(s) allowed
Any type fuel pressure regulator allowed
Any size fuel injectors allowed, no limit on number used
Gasoline fuel only, no additives, alcohol, or nitrous oxide injection allowed

TRANSMISSION
Any GM automatic transmission, 200-4R, TH400 w/ any torque converter allowed
No Lenco, Liberty or manual transmissions with or without clutch allowed

DIFFERENTIAL
Any type stock width differential housing allowed, +/- 1" allowance w/ limited-slip differentials or spool allowed and any gear ratio allowed

WHEELS & TIRES
Any matched set of four 15" diameter wheels allowed
Slicks w/ sidewall designation up to a 29.5” x 11.50” -15” size tire w/ a maximum measured footprint of 11.25” is allowed
W tires are allowed
***Phoenix Brand 11.5”standard and W sidewall designation tires are not allowed do to tread width restrictions
DOT street tires w/sidewall designations up to a 30.0” x 13.50”-15” size tire are allowed

INTERIOR
Stock dash must be retained with any gauges and any transmission shifter allowed
A maximum of 2 hood mounted gauges allowed
Car must have a fully carpeted floor board w/2 front seats, door panels, headliner, applicable interior trim, etc. Rear seat may be removed; area must be carpeted

 

[Buicksx2]

Originally posted by TurboDiverArt
Where are the "official" TSO rules posted? If Stage II heads are illegal then I guess I couldn't run if I wanted to.

>>>Artie,
You can run the S2 heads, so let's bring your car out to run TSO and see if we can find it's breaking point. I mean at 9.60 we haven't found it yet, plus it will be good advertising for your business Arties Custom Welding and Fabrication

 

[Otto J]

Originally posted by Buicksx2
>>>Artie,
You can run the S2 heads, so let's bring your car out to run TSO and see if we can find it's breaking point. I mean at 9.60 we haven't found it yet, plus it will be good advertising for your business Arties Custom Welding and Fabrication

Hell ya, Now your talking, Lets turn up the freaking boost already,And flip that wallet open and put a mans turbo on a man engine!
I just have a little boys engine

 

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by Buicksx2
>>>Artie,
You can run the S2 heads, so let's bring your car out to run TSO and see if we can find it's breaking point. I mean at 9.60 we haven't found it yet, plus it will be good advertising for your business Arties Custom Welding and Fabrication

76 turbo at 3675 lbs race weight's got no place in TSO. My car conforms to all the rules without any penalties.

Art.

 

[Otto J]

Art both our cars need to go on a diet,But i dont race to win,I race for the fun of it.The payouts at these races are never large enough to recoupe any real money invested anyway.
Put a bigger turbo on it, Tony Gomes car i believe weighs more than yours and he is one of the fastest,Still with functioning A/C!

 

[turbobuick]

Originally posted by KLHAMMETT
Art both our cars need to go on a diet,But i dont race to win,I race for the fun of it.The payouts at these races are never large enough to recoupe any real money invested anyway.
Put a bigger turbo on it, Tony Gomes car i believe weighs more than yours and he is one of the fastest,Still with functioning A/C!

BPG pays out $1000 to the winner and $500 to 2nd. We are trying to raise more money and sponsorship for a points series and other races but it seems to be stalling at this point as few if anybody can agree on anything.

The first set of rules you posted from Cotton's site were a rough draft of a set of rules we were working on for the points series. The second set is for the TSO race at the GSCA Nats.

 

[odell4o8]

fastest tso car

Chris, the bgp payout for tso what is the car count for them to pay that amount,? gsca nats, pays 400.00 1st place and 200.00 for 2 nd and 100.00 for third, q-16 pays 750.00 to win and 350.00 for 2nd, it cost me 295.00 for me and pit crew of two enter the nats, plus 400.00 motel plus fuel and if we dont break anything, so if you luck out and win you are still in the hole, but man its fun, and when you get my age ever race may be your last so try to make it your best, but what the h--- its only money good luck, oc

 

[Otto J]

My exact setinments Odell, You enter to win this race for some notoriety if anything, Hell even 1000 bucks wont cover my expenses for a 3 day race

 

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by turbobuick
BPG pays out $1000 to the winner and $500 to 2nd.

That's why Rich and I will be at BPG, see you there Chris!

Art.

 

[Buicksx2]

Originally posted by TurboDiverArt
That's why Rich and I will be at BPG, see you there Chris!

Art.

>>>Art,

Does that mean you have volunteered us to run TSO? I don't remember the board of directors at Rich's Auto and Arties Welding & Fabrication OKing such a move

 

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by Buicksx2
>>>Art,

Does that mean you have volunteered us to run TSO? I don't remember the board of directors at Rich's Auto and Arties Welding & Fabrication OKing such a move

I was recommending you to run TSO. You car does better wheel stands than mine anyway!

Art.

 

[Buicksx2]

Originally posted by TurboDiverArt
I was recommending you to run TSO. You car does better wheel stands than mine anyway!

Art.

>>>>It's all for the kids afterall isn't it, if I ran TSO I will be the Rhonda Hartman Smith of the class.........ya know the racer every other racer wants to draw in the 1st round and I will guarantee them a trip into the 2nd round

 

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by Buicksx2
>>>>It's all for the kids afterall isn't it, if I ran TSO I will be the Rhonda Hartman Smith of the class.........ya know the racer every other racer wants to draw in the 1st round and I will guarantee them a trip into the 2nd round

That's funny poop! If I could be guaranteed to draw you in first round I would run TSO. I figure at 20 points per round and another 20 for qualifying I could do pretty well even if I would be the Rhonda Hartman Smith of the second round.

Art.

 

[Otto J]

Originally posted by Buicksx2
>>>>It's all for the kids afterall isn't it, if I ran TSO I will be the Rhonda Hartman Smith of the class.........ya know the racer every other racer wants to draw in the 1st round and I will guarantee them a trip into the 2nd round

I beg to differ with you Rich, I believe i will be that guy,Your both faster than me

 

[Buicksx2]

Otto I'm sure with your new turbo and suspension you'll do quite well this year.

Hey I'm game to run TSO what the hell I got nothing to lose and who knows when I get knocked out early enough maybe I can get back in lanes for the Q16


Of course there's always beer after the races are over

 

[turbobuick]

Originally posted by KLHAMMETT
My exact setinments Odell, You enter to win this race for some notoriety if anything, Hell even 1000 bucks wont cover my expenses for a 3 day race

Considering what it cost to build one of these cars I somehow doubt $$ is a motivating force for most.

$1000 is a nice prize for any race. The BPG Q16 payout was $2500 and this year we'll be able to run Q16 on Sunday and TSO on Sat night.

Now if we had a series of races, with a championship $$, and contigency $$, Hmmmm.

BPG would like 10 cars to pay the full amount. They still paid $750 and $300 plus some contigency prizes and $$ from vendors. It was a nice race and nice to win something even for 2nd. I'm really looking forward to it again this year.

 

[TurboDiverArt]

Originally posted by turbobuick
Considering what it cost to build one of these cars I somehow doubt $$ is a motivating force for most.

$1000 is a nice prize for any race. The BPG Q16 payout was $2500 and this year we'll be able to run Q16 on Sunday and TSO on Sat night.

Now if we had a series of races, with a championship $$, and contigency $$, Hmmmm.

BPG would like 10 cars to pay the full amount. They still paid $750 and $300 plus some contigency prizes and $$ from vendors. It was a nice race and nice to win something even for 2nd. I'm really looking forward to it again this year.

What's the racing schedule for BPG? I thought I remember reading that Friday was a car show and racing was only at night because it's in August. Is that correct, just wondering what time racing starts and on which day.

Thanks,
Art.

 

[baadgn]

Hi all

I figured since we are less than three months away from Bowling Green we could get a head count for TSO. I think this year the class will have the most participents of any other year

 

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[Otto J]

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