2011 Ford EcoBoost 3.5 twin turbo V6

[Murdock]

Anybody own one of these on the board yet. I was thinking of buying one.
Test drove the truck and was pretty suprised. Very responsive and handles great...feels light on its feet for a four door full size truck. was never a big Ford fan but my 09 Lariat has been a great truck and the lineup Fords coming out with now is looking pretty good. Anyone else like this truck??

 

[MeanBuicks]

I haven't driven one of those yet but that engine is a natural for a Mustang. Just think, a new turbo SVO/SVT Mustang. It might even outrun a new 5.0.

 

[novaderrik]

i can't help but wonder what kind of a maintenance nightmare those things are going to be when they get about a decade and 150,000 miles behind them..

 

[Michael McCoy]

Why would it be a nightmare?

 

[jlat]

hello; I don't know anyone that has one but watching the tests that's on line it looks like a keeper. I believe in the future your going to see smaller displacement cars with turbos. And that eco-boost is in other Fords also other than trucks.
Imagine going to the shop for a repair and the tech tells you you need two turbos and a water pump. That's going to be a price tag.
IBBY

 

[NASSTY]

I've had mine for about 3.5 months and I love this thing.

i can't help but wonder what kind of a maintenance nightmare those things are going to be when they get about a decade and 150,000 miles behind them..

I don't know if you've seen the Ecoboost torture test videos or not? They flogged it hard for 164k miles (the dyno miles were simulated)and had no issues. I'm not too concerned I have a 5 year 60k mile warranty. I usually only put 5k-6k miles on my trucks per year so I won't live long enough to put 100k miles on it.

 

[NASSTY]

hello; I don't know anyone that has one but watching the tests that's on line it looks like a keeper. I believe in the future your going to see smaller displacement cars with turbos. And that eco-boost is in other Fords also other than trucks.
Imagine going to the shop for a repair and the tech tells you you need two turbos and a water pump. That's going to be a price tag.
IBBY

Actually the stock turbos aren't too bad.Tasca Parts sells them for under $600 each.FWIW, they are water cooled.

 

[TurboDave]

Here's a link to the torture tests. Watch all six videos in order to get the best perspective. Eco boost is my next new purchase!

http://www.ford.com/trucks/f150/experiencef150/

 

[TurboDave]

Actually the stock turbos aren't too bad.Tasca Parts sells them for under $600 each.FWIW, they are water cooled.

Ya, the F150 uses top of the line Borg Warner turbos.

 

[jlat]

hello; Tell me if you can get one of those top of the line turbos for those Fords at that price why are turbos for TB so much?
IBBY

 

[NarcGN]

That's actually the next truck I'm getting when my lease is up. Just a few months. Been researching them for a while. Loved my other F150

 

[NASSTY]

hello; Tell me if you can get one of those top of the line turbos for those Fords at that price why are turbos for TB so much?
IBBY

I'm sure bigger than stock Ecoboost turbos would be pricey too. Some of the smaller Buick turbos are priced pretty reasonable. You can get a remanufactured stock GN turbo for about $500. A TA-49 or TE-44 would probably run you between $600-$700. But I agree when you go much bigger or start adding billet wheels and ball bearings it can get expensive real quick.

 

[TurboDave]

hello; Tell me if you can get one of those top of the line turbos for those Fords at that price why are turbos for TB so much?
IBBY

Because they are quite small. There are two of them so they can be small.

 

[TurboDave]

i can't help but wonder what kind of a maintenance nightmare those things are going to be when they get about a decade and 150,000 miles behind them..

Properly maintained, a turbo should easilly go much longer than that!! My Powerstroke's turbo is pushing over 170,000+ and is still going strong.

 

[novaderrik]

Properly maintained, a turbo should easilly go much longer than that!! My Powerstroke's turbo is pushing over 170,000+ and is still going strong.

the key phrase here is "properly maintained". i feel sorry for the 2nd and third owners of most of these things 10 years down the road...

the oems can do all the torture testing they want and use it in their marketing campaigns, but the general public has a way of finding the weaknesses in mass produced production engines that the engineers never even thought of.

the engines that came stock in our turbo Regals is a good example- the smart guys in the white lab coats at GM Powertrain spent years and millions of dollars designing, building, breaking, and improving them before releasing them to the public in what they thought was a durable configuration with bulletproof parts.. i think it took about a week for people to figure out how to properly break them. by the time they thought they had it pretty well sorted out, it's production run was over and they moved on to other engine designs.

 

[BEATAV8]

hello; Tell me if you can get one of those top of the line turbos for those Fords at that price why are turbos for TB so much?
IBBY

because they're mass produced by Borg Warner.

I work with Borg Warner quite often. The engineers and the technologies are state of the art.

 

[NASSTY]

the oems can do all the torture testing they want and use it in their marketing campaigns, but the general public has a way of finding the weaknesses in mass produced production engines that the engineers never even thought of.

Oh the engineers thought of it alright.The PCMs are heavily encrypted.So much so that even after these trucks have been on the road for 3/4 of a year the speed shops still haven't broken the codes yet and there are still no tuners/programmers available yet. This is due to people modding and breaking the SHOs and 5.0 Mustangs and trying to get them fixed on Fords dime. They are being very anal about voiding warranties for modifications on these trucks.

 

[Black3]

i can't help but wonder what kind of a maintenance nightmare those things are going to be when they get about a decade and 150,000 miles behind them..

Yup. A propaganda "torture" test in a short period of time with brand new stuff is one thing. Years of hot/cold cycles, traffic, corrosion, and environmental influences is a whole different game. It might be awesome new but, I wouldn't want one when its out of warranty.

 

[TurboDave]

Yup. A propaganda "torture" test in a short period of time with brand new stuff is one thing. Years of hot/cold cycles, traffic, corrosion, and environmental influences is a whole different game. It might be awesome new but, I wouldn't want one when its out of warranty.

Funny you should say that! Your driving a 24 year old turbo car, that I think has been out of warranty for a little while.

 

[Chuck Leeper]

They'd likely be..

i can't help but wonder what kind of a maintenance nightmare those things are going to be when they get about a decade and 150,000 miles behind them..

about the same as a turbo Puick..The boost would be screwed to the moon, alky kits would be in use, and the head gasket business would be booming!
The owners would be able to take advantage of shop tools that were invented about the same time as the TR's came to market.. Engine stands, and hoists...