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From your GM dealer, or from most of the Buick vendors. The price has gone way up, though. You will pay almost as much for the accumulator as you will for a rebuilt PowerMaster at Advance, and the rebuilt PM will include the ball, and a new pressure switch.
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------------------------------------------------Ormand said:
I don't know about the dealers, but I don't know of any of the Buick vendors that still have any left. Occasional collectors, maybe once in a while, but very seldom. Kirbans are out, and have been for a while, or so I thought.
How much are the dealers getting now?
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Turbodan said:
Do they have any more?
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-------------------------------------------------Turbodan said:
My gawd, that's flipping horrible. I would have never guessed that they were that much money now. Starting to make the new in the box powermaster that I bought a while back for $ 830 a bargin. None of my business, but I am curious if that is a GM Dealer, a Buick vendor, or a private Buick collector type person that has that. At that kind of money, I don't think that you have any concern regarding somebody buying it out from under you while you are thinking about it. I am going to go suck up to my new powermaster. I might even go suck up to the one in the car also.
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----------------------------------------Wells said:
I just verified through 2 local So Cal GM dealers that:
The part last sold for $ 79 & change,
That it has been discontinued,
That no dealer or distribution center shows any in stock.
Pretty bleak picture, but nothing that we didn't already know or suspect.
Did they find some or is your information old?Wells said:
How moronic is it that GM can discontinue a part needed to stop a car that is under 20 years old? . If the part failed (like the original switch did) , they would be forced to recall it but yet they are "allowed" to discontinue such a basic part. Where are the folks that rebuilt the PM getting these from. I needed one a few months back and was fortunate enough to buy one from a buick buddy for a fair price but every other source I checked was OUT. And now the vultures will circle. Wonder who the supplier was who produced these things?
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FWIW & IMHO:
I don't think that GM discontinued these because they wanted to, but because whatever company that was making them for GM and everybody else quit making them. Kirban's Performance contacted the manufacturer of them and was told that they had discontinued making them, for GM or for anyone else. The Kirban's Performance information was in a Kirban's newsletter a while back.
I don't think that GM discontinued these because they wanted to, but because whatever company that was making them for GM and everybody else quit making them. Kirban's Performance contacted the manufacturer of them and was told that they had discontinued making them, for GM or for anyone else. The Kirban's Performance information was in a Kirban's newsletter a while back.
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Wells said:
They are indeed discontinued. I dont know if I would blame GM or Kirban. It would be nice if some big vendor like Kirban would belly up to the plate and fund the retooling of these parts since IMO he is one of the vendors responsable for their sudden demise. I'm probally going to take my comments and opinions in the shorts for saying this but a lot of these vendors sell parts like there is an endless supply. Not once, as far as hard parts like these go, has one of them spent the money to reproduce them once they are discontinued. It would be nice to see accumulators available instead of GNX suspensions IMO.The OEM parts system is a complicated one that would take me a couple of years to explain but what it comes down to is the old story of supply and demand. Delco makes the PM and all of the parts for it. Not GM. When ever GM runs out of a certain part, and the older the car and parts the worse it gets, than somebody has to go through a cost analysis process which envolves tracking down the company and tooling necessary to make that part. A few years back GM had a problem with suppliers stealing the tooling(which was the property of GM)and claiming it was destroyed or lost only to have that tooling suddenly reappear in someone elses possession and that company kicking out the part for the reproduction market. In the accumulators case what I think is the problem is that GM and Delco underestimated the potential market for them. That part was only used in 86-87 so following the rules of attrition they just assume there is no market for them reguardless of how many they have sold in the past couple of years. Plus the last time they probally made any of these was 5 years ago so retooling just to kick out even a couple of thousand of these accumulators is not really cost effective to them. And a small group of Buick owners aint going to convince them otherwise either. And that still leaves the problem of no PM accumulators.
