Anybody in here bench over 450?

[ChrisCairns]

I can bench 450 easily.

Just don't ask me to lift it OFF the bench.

 

[Pablo]

I'm curious to know how applicable this kind of strength is to MMA. Heavy lifting tends to build outright strength at the sacrifice of explosive recruitment of those muscle fibers. You also sacrifice flexibility.

In the past, training hard for cycling, I have built up massive legs in the gym doing heavy weight sets. Even though I had pretty good definition and vascularity I couldn't jump to touch a basketball rim to save my life. Only power exercises like pylometrics improved that ability to any degree.

I would think building a moderate strength base early in training, then progressing to explosive movements (like pylometrics) and all the time improving aerobic and anaerobic fitness would be what would benefit you the most in the conditioning arena.

I'm no mma expert (did a couple months of BJJ awhile back) but thats just my opinion.

 

[GNguy]

I train MMA as well, kick back on the HEAVY lifting about 2-3 weeks before a fight because 1) your probably already stronger than most of your opponents and you wont loose that much strength if you just go lighter weight with alot of reps and at a somewhat faster pace, this has worked well for me. 2) heavy lifting like that without ALOT of stretching can tighten you up before a fight. You can still hurt yourself lifting weights like that. What weight do you fight at? HW? 450 is alot, most I ever hit was 375 8 times. I fight at 155-165(depending if I want to cut that much)

 

[V8killR4U]

id bet everything i own that kimbo could out bench tank anyday...kimbo didnt get that dang big from jogging

lol yeh Kimbo does look like a mad man, but he actually was bigger when he was doing real bare knuckle fights. (He actually trains now). But my point was this. I'd take conditioning and cardio over being able to bench more than my opponent any day.

When i had my first fight i thought i was in decent shape and DAMN those two minute rounds felt alot longer than two minutes. lmao. I realized then that you must have cardio and conditioning!

 

[gnxtc2]

Brent

I've been powerlifting for years now. When my elbows started hurting, it was caused by heavy squating. When you squat, you are unknowningly trying to push the weight up with your arms. Try laying off the squating and see what happens. Are you using a bench shirt?

Another thing to consider, if you are using supplements the muscles are getting stronger than your tendons. Continuing this why of training, something will snap at the wrong time.

Listen to your body and train smarter. Your body is the perfect machine, it tells you when something is wrong.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[Junior Samples]

if you are using supplements the muscles are getting stronger than your tendons. Continuing this why of training, something will snap at the wrong time.

Exactamundo

 

[JOHNDEEREGN]

Brent

I've been powerlifting for years now.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

He doesnt mean double cheeseburgers Billy

Back on topic:biggrin:

 

[RobsIron]

Every time I take a leak.

 

[John Wilde]

Man we have some monster's around here and I am not just talking about RobsIron!

How long is it taking you guys from starting a lifting program to getting to those amazing numbers?

 

[John Wilde]

And BTW depending on your style that much strength is not going to help you in MMA. Look at Anderson Silva, there is no way he puts up 300 plus lbs.

 

[Junior Samples]

Man we have some monster's around here and I am not just talking about RobsIron!

How long is it taking you guys from starting a lifting program to getting to those amazing numbers?

John I started in 10th grade, hit hard through high school and like some kids, metabolism kept me from seeing results like i wanted, and that mindset also kinda goes with weight lifting...its like Anorexia only backwards...you never think your getting bigger but everyone else can see, id just look in the mirror and see skinny, even when my arms broke 18inches i just didnt see it.

at about 34 i put the weights down, kept getting hurt and now at 40 i havent lost it all but im not as big as i once was. in the end it takes a long time to get it and not long to lose it but muscle has memory and thats a good thing.

 

[faster]

How long is it taking you guys from starting a lifting program to getting to those amazing numbers?

Ten years with no roids or growth hormones.

Mikey

 

[John Wilde]

Guys,

I am really impressed with the dedication and the results.
Congratulations!

 

[GNBRETT]

Fighters loose mainly due to their lack of endurance. That goes for MMA, wrestling, boxing, etc... Not their lack of strength. Strenth is obviously important but I think some fighters get too wrapped up in the strength aspect and forget about the importance of fighting lactic acid build up and conditioning their bodies to take in more oxygen over an extended period of time.

Having the best of both worlds seperates the so called great fighters from the professional fighters.