Anyone interested in Time Travel?

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by gnturboray
I noticed that there was no mention of any modern Terrorism. The Arab / Jew fight was mentioned but it's been happening for a thousand years. And anytime the mention of Art Bell is brought up,,,,der der duhhhhhh,,,teacher!!! Johnnie's of his Prozac again.
Gimme a friggin break,,,,,I agree "TARDS"!!!!!

Who brought up Art Bell?

 

[TurboJunky]

Originally posted by Captain Mark
Writing styles.......hmmmm.....good point, BUT we really don't talk much different than we did in 1972. that was 32 years ago. Plus, if there was civil, and world war, I would think that would slow down much social evolution that could change a lot of our language. Just a thought.

I can't specifically point out many examples but I believe you'd notice a difference in word usage, sentence structure and speaking styles if you watched TV programs, news broadcasts and movies back then and compare them with today. One small example is word usage. Nobody says "far out" anymore but was commonly used in 1972.

This guy writes exactly as someone writes today....FAKE!

 

[ncgreg231]

I gotta say, I believe he is fake. It was very interesting reading, but I did find numerous contradictions. Too bad he is gone like Marty Mcfly and can't answer questions anymore.

On thing I would have like to known - what did he take back to the future with him and why (besides the IBM 5100)

Are there any timetravel forums out there?

Me and my brother-in-law had a pretty interesting discussion on time travel and here's the conclusion - time travel is PROBABLY not possible because of that worldline divergence thing.

I shall explain: If I went back in time and killed my dad before I was born, would I disappear?

Yes - I killed my dad, and therefore prevent my conception. BUT I already exist at the point my dad drawls his last breath, so I would think it impossible for me to suddenly disappear!

(anyone wan to continue discussing this?)

 

[Captain Mark]

Please don't get me wrong. I don't believe this stuff either. But I do give this guy credit for putting up a pretty could act.

His description of the physics of time travel and the his time machine were very good, I thought.

Like I said above, he could make millions writing for Hollywood.

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by ncgreg231

Me and my brother-in-law had a pretty interesting discussion on time travel and here's the conclusion - time travel is PROBABLY not possible because of that worldline divergence thing.

I had a pretty good discussion yesterday with a friend about the same thing. He has studied this stuff for a long time, and now almost has me convinced that multiple worldlines can and do occur.

 

[ncgreg231]

Please tell me more about multiple worldlines...

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by ncgreg231
Please tell me more about multiple worldlines...

OK, try to bear with me.............I'll try my best.

Let's say you are a time traveler. You set your machine to go back to a certain date. And while you are there, you want to accomplish something....anything......say ....buy a computer to take back with you. So, you fire up the machine and you are back in time, in the place you need to be. You walk in the computer store and...........

1. While you are there someone robs the store and shoots the owner of the store. You haul butt out of there.............mission not accomplished. You will have to try again later. You go back to your machine and return to your time.

2. You go back again, but this time you take a weapon, or inform the owner before the bad guy comes in what is about to happen. The bad guy doesn't rob the store, you get what you need and haul butt back to the future.


NOW.....look at number 1. That is worldline number one. After you left the scene of the crime, did that entire thing not happen? No, it DID happen, you were there. What happened to that universe, planet, all those people. The bad guy got away to rob another day. All the people in that universe are still there and that worldline is going on the way it should.

The SAME can be said of scenario number 2. Did you change history..........well....kinda. You started a second worldline when the guy was prevented from robbing the store. Instead of getting away with it, the bad guy went to jail. Totally different outcomes, but all the same people were involved.

Did you ever see "It's A Wonderful Life". That is an example of 2 different worldlines with the same people.

This may be a bad example, but I'm just a dumb fireman! sorry!

 

[ncgreg231]

Well, I agree with the theory, but what I don't agree with is the concept that all of these new worlds are being created. I mean - so those alternate worlds were always there? There would have to be infinity of them, because you could concieve so many variations just on the store robbery - you get killed, you get wounded, etc etc etc.

I suppose if you believe there could be that many existing worlds, then the theory holds, but then you are not really TIME traveling, you are just jumping between different realities, right?

 

[gnturboray]

Mark,,Art Bell was brought up in the website you posted.

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by ncgreg231

I suppose if you believe there could be that many existing worlds, then the theory holds, but then you are not really TIME traveling, you are just jumping between different realities, right?

You are doing both.

You could actually go back in time. I suppose you could even do this. Jump in the time machine, go find yourself as a younger person, KILL that younger you...and go on about your business. How's that for changing worldlines. Your life would end in that worldline, but as soon as you killed the younger you, a new worldline starts.

Mind boggling stuff. And remember these worldlines are ALL taking place on the same planet, at the same time so more room is not needed.

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by gnturboray
Mark,,Art Bell was brought up in the website you posted.

Okay, sorry. Not sure who that is.

 

[gnturboray]

Originally posted by Captain Mark
Okay, sorry. Not sure who that is.

Art bell is a late night talk show host that deals in aliens and the super natural. He has some real wacko's on his show which in my opinion has no credibility.

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by gnturboray
Art bell is a late night talk show host that deals in aliens and the super natural. He has some real wacko's on his show which in my opinion has no credibility.

..hmmm.......I could see where this would fit into that category. Like I said, if nothing else the guy is an excellent writer!

 

[ncgreg231]

Originally posted by Captain Mark
Mind boggling stuff. And remember these worldlines are ALL taking place on the same planet, at the same time so more room is not needed.

How the heck could you fit all of that all on one planet?

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by ncgreg231
How the heck could you fit all of that all on one planet?

It's different realities.

Gotcha thinking now

 

[turbot2496]

Art bell is a late night talk show host that deals in aliens and the super natural. He has some real wacko's on his show which in my opinion has no credibility.

Aaaaahh, He's not that bad. He's retired now and George Nory has taken over. Good thing about Art is he lets people talk and lets you the listener make up your mind whether there a wacko or not. He's had some very entertaining shows over the years on subjects we would all like to know more about but the mainstream won't touch for fear of criticism. Used to listen to alot of Art back when I was running nights. He's like anything else, he had good shows and bad ones. Funniest thing I've heard on there though.....

Caller-- I enjoy your show Art but I truly don't believe everything your guests talk about.

Art---- I'd worry about you if you did.


LOL

 

[ncgreg231]

Originally posted by Captain Mark
It's different realities.

Gotcha thinking now

Have you ever given much thought to how big of a number "infinity" is? I mean, without "time traveling" I could hop from one of my present realities to another - was there any discussion how you would specify which reality you would be in? And that is just this ONE particular moment, then there would be every second, in the past and in the future, each with their own infinite number of alternate realities. Please, help me think of a way all of thos realities are going to crowd together on one single planet?

 

[Captain Mark]

It is my understanding that each worldline is it's own universe. That would include the Earth. So when you get to a new worldline, there is only one earth, just like now. When you go into another worldline, there is only one earth, just like now. Only in a different reality, or worldline, or timeline whatever you want to call it. Thatis why this guy says it is very important for him to keep up with which worldline he is in. He said he currently has worldlines a,b,c and d he is travelling in, and different things are happening in each one.

 

[ncgreg231]

but you have to believe that so many universes could exist...and I don't!

 

[Captain Mark]

Originally posted by ncgreg231
but you have to believe that so many universes could exist...and I don't!

OK, I don't know if I do either. This is just some theories that are being thrown around. Something to make you think.

Although, the more I study it, the more I think it may have validity. At least going BACK in time.

Now travelling FORWARD in time is where I have problems. That opens up a real can of worms.