My car came equipped with an ATR liquid to air intercooler, and it's cool and all, but I really like the aggressive look of a big air to air intercooler. My car is not a dedicated race car, so it's almost like overkill. I've gathered that these ATR intercoolers aren't very easy to find these days, but is that enough reason for me to keep it? it does what it should afterall...
ATR liquid intercooler to air to air?
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I don't see much use for it on the street. Especially if you cruise all day like I do on occasions. If you need to make room, then ditch it.
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like the headers the overseas guys copied it and they are all over ebay cheap
my preference is the chemical intercooler ..alkycontrol
can get much more HP from alky and a stocker than you could get from the ATR air-liquid but i see in your sig you have alky so even if it didnt reduce heat it might not hurt performance
in general liguid to air are usually very good at reducing air charge temp vs air to air but thats conditional on size and location , if you couldnt fit a large fmic or get it into good air flow (like in a TTA) then the liguid-air would shine . only way to really evaluate what its doing is log the air temps after the atr , with a stocker youll have more pressure restriction and more heat vs the atr if the atr is working. if the atr isnt working it will have high charge temps
if your plenum temps are cool after alky then the atr isnt hurting you vs a stocker , but if you compare to a good front mount the atr may fall short both on temp drop and restriction and might wake up that 64 turbo
my preference is the chemical intercooler ..alkycontrol
can get much more HP from alky and a stocker than you could get from the ATR air-liquid but i see in your sig you have alky so even if it didnt reduce heat it might not hurt performance
in general liguid to air are usually very good at reducing air charge temp vs air to air but thats conditional on size and location , if you couldnt fit a large fmic or get it into good air flow (like in a TTA) then the liguid-air would shine . only way to really evaluate what its doing is log the air temps after the atr , with a stocker youll have more pressure restriction and more heat vs the atr if the atr is working. if the atr isnt working it will have high charge temps
if your plenum temps are cool after alky then the atr isnt hurting you vs a stocker , but if you compare to a good front mount the atr may fall short both on temp drop and restriction and might wake up that 64 turbo
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X2 on ditching the liquid to air IC! IMHO they have no place on a street driven driver. the only way for a l to a can shine is to keep the liquid very cold, like on a race car changing the liquid out between every run.
On s street driven car that may seldom see speeds over 70 mph, they just aren't going to work well at all, even the one's with heat exchangers, they just can't keep the liquid cold enough to be of much use at all.
I'm a firm believer that a good quality front mount is the only way to go. They're out there in the cool incoming air flow, can't suffer the huge heat soak that a stock location ic will, and contrary to popular believe they don't adversely affect the cooling system. That statement of course is try if the cooling system is working properly. Many cooling systems however are sadly neglected and the front mounts suffer most of the blame.
Hell, even my 2012 Lincoln runs a front mount! As do all Ford Ecoboost products.
Do yourself a favor, sell it for whatever you can get for it.
On s street driven car that may seldom see speeds over 70 mph, they just aren't going to work well at all, even the one's with heat exchangers, they just can't keep the liquid cold enough to be of much use at all.
I'm a firm believer that a good quality front mount is the only way to go. They're out there in the cool incoming air flow, can't suffer the huge heat soak that a stock location ic will, and contrary to popular believe they don't adversely affect the cooling system. That statement of course is try if the cooling system is working properly. Many cooling systems however are sadly neglected and the front mounts suffer most of the blame.
Hell, even my 2012 Lincoln runs a front mount! As do all Ford Ecoboost products.
Do yourself a favor, sell it for whatever you can get for it.
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Also to add their are to many variables for failure with that system, extra pumps and pieces and what not....
I just went through all the components and Everything is good on it so far. It also has an ice box reservoir too! Pretty cool.
to be fair, my car is a street car, but will see a considerable amount of drag racing.
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The water to air intercooler will only be efficient at the track as you can ice it up between runs. On the street in California will be a completely different scenario. Start logging your intake air temps ....
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It would be very interesting to see the actual inlet air temp in the plenum so it could be compared to SL intercoolers as well as front mounts.
I have lots of data of IAT, but none with the ATR unit.
Instead of guessing, you could then make an intelligent decision especially with street and strip data.
I have lots of data of IAT, but none with the ATR unit.
Instead of guessing, you could then make an intelligent decision especially with street and strip data.
How big is the ice box? It needs to be pretty big to make it worthwhile even at the track. And on the street, the heat soak will do it in. BTDT with my Syclone.
I apologize for the huge delay. The ice box looks to be about the size of a 2 1/2 gallon bucket and inside are lines which lead to a heat exchanger.
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