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According to Jesus, Brett. Since you seem to be so interested in this might I suggest that you go read the four Gospels, this will quench most of your curiosity. As for the priests that claim to live for Jesus, but molest children. You will find the answer to this in the bible also. Don't worry too much about which version you read, as long as its in english you will be fine :D

I really think you need to start your own thread in the political section & stop running this one so far off course.
I can only think that God would invite those into his kingdom from the contributions they have made to man and woman while alive on this earth and not because they spend Sunday in church reading and preaching the bible.

There are a billion or so that believe in something totally different then you and do not believe in Jesus. Does that mean they are going to hell cause they believe in something different then you? I doubt it.

I might be able to buy into the Jesus thing if everyone prayed to the same God. The fact is they dont and havent for thousands of years. In fact, many have to prayed to a different God long before Jesus was even created.

As far as the bible itself goes. I do plan to read it some day. I mean if I dont I may go straight to hell. Dont want that to happen.:)
 
According to who? What about the priests that have committed sin over and over again by sexually assaulting little boys? Are they going to heaven or are their sins forgiven and go directly to the gates of Heaven?

If they've seriously repented of their sins and asked for forgiveness, yes they do. For sin is what keeps you out of heaven.

And I do agree there's too many denominations with too many hypocrites trying to shove their beliefs down your throat while the offering plate is emptied into the preacher's pocket to pay his Cadillac, mink coat and nice house (insert Jim and Tammy Bakker here), thus why I'm not a big church goer but I still do believe and pray.
 
I can only think that God would invite those into his kingdom from the contributions they have made to man and woman while alive on this earth and not because they spend Sunday in church reading and preaching the bible.

There are a billion or so that believe in something totally different then you and do not believe in Jesus. Does that mean they are going to hell cause they believe in something different then you? I doubt it.

I might be able to buy into the Jesus thing if everyone prayed to the same God. The fact is they dont and havent for thousands of years. In fact, many have to prayed to a different God long before Jesus was even created.

As far as the bible itself goes. I do plan to read it some day. I mean if I dont I may go straight to hell. Dont want that to happen.:)

Those billion people you speak of do believe in Jesus. They think he was a prophet, and a very spiritual, nice man, which goes against everything he said. So those billion people are saying he was a liar, yet a prophet. You really need to learn more before you just spout out your "facts" Brett.

Saying you don't believe in Jesus is like saying you don't believe in king henry VIII, or George Washington.

And you don't get to heaven by going to church. Just read those four chapters (Matthew, Mark, Luke & John).
 
Those billion people you speak of do believe in Jesus.
Yes, Muslims believe in Jesus. But not in any way, shape or form like you do.

Muslims believed Jesus to be one of the five great prophets. They don't believe in Jesus as God or the son of God.

So my "Facts" are dead on. That's quite a big distinction dont ya think?
 
There are a billion or so that believe in something totally different then you and do not believe in Jesus.

Yes, Muslims believe in Jesus. But not in any way, shape or form like you do.

Muslims believed Jesus to be one of the five great prophets.

You are contradicting yourself & completely change your facts when it is pointed out that you are wrong Brett.

You obviously know it all Brett, Why do you insist on running the OP's thread off course.

WHO'S READ THE BIBLE?
 
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There are a billion or so that believe in something totally different then you and do not believe in Jesus. Does that mean they are going to hell cause they believe in something different then you? I doubt it.



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I might be able to buy into the Jesus thing if everyone prayed to the same God. The fact is they dont and havent for thousands of years. In fact, many have to prayed to a different God long before Jesus was even created.

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Paragraph 1 ^^^^^Not necessarily; from the way I read anyways....
Nor on the hell part .....


ACTS 24:15 and I have hope toward God, which hope these [men] themselves also entertain, that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.



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Actually Jesus was created before he even came to earth: John 8:58
Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.

You are also correct on the different gods for thousands of years-- but can their (gods) do anything? No....for the bible speaks of this also.

1 Corinthians 8:5,6: For even though there are those who are called “gods,” whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.



See guys, I've been reading.:)
 
You are contradicting yourself & completely change your facts when it is pointed out that you are wrong Brett.

You obviously know it all Brett, Why do you insist on running the OP's thread off course.

WHO'S READ THE BIBLE?
They dont read the bible, they read the Quoran. So who's wrong? And I see ur refusing to answer my question so ill just assume you have no answer to it.
 
They dont read the bible, they read the Quoran. So who's wrong? And I see ur refusing to answer my question so ill just assume you have no answer to it.

Who asked what book the muslims read?

I am pretty sure I have answered every question you have asked Brett. Did I miss one? Tell me, what question is it that you say I am refusing to answer?

You are coming off as an instigator/pot stirrer Brett, while continuing to run this thread off course, have you no respect for others?
 
Who asked what book the muslims read?

I am pretty sure I have answered every question you have asked Brett. Did I miss one? Tell me, what question is it that you say I am refusing to answer?

You are coming off as an instigator/pot stirrer Brett, while continuing to run this thread off course, have you no respect for others?
No ur just upset because I dont agree with ur BS. So are a billion muslims going to hell because they dont think Jesus is God? Yes or no?
 
Ah, Brett...you're getting too philsophical and analytical and complicated here!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Now this is just from me, so look.....Jesus was sent to earth by God in a human form, because God saw how corrupt the world was....so Jesus was sent to save us from evil.....Jesus KNEW he was going to suffer all pains us humans do, and KNEW he was going to be persecuted...so he came down, performed incredible miricles, healings, teachings, etc. to try and help man end his evil ways......Jesus KNEW he was going to be nailed to the cross, and buddy, that hurt, the suffering he took on the way to the cross, all of this to show that whoever believes in HIM shall have everlasting life. One of the two crimminals who were also nailed to crosses on either side of him turned to Jesus and asked him to please forgive him, and that he believes Jesus really is the Son of God...Jesus did...and when Jesus asscended to Heaven, the crimminal also went with him.....

Jesus appeard to his disciples AFTER death for a while, just to show that there IS life AFTER death and to spread the word...

Think of it this way...what other event are we celibrating that happend 2011 years ago? The Corvette? No. The Gibson guitar? No. The Grand National? No.

This was the most incredible, unbelieveabe events that ever happend on this earth....the birth of a baby from a VIRGIN, then the persecution of Jesus by Pontus Pilate. Then the return from the dead.

Summing it up....God appeared in human form to suffer the sins of man and to ask them to accept HIM as thier savior, and was willing to die in the most painful way for man, come back to life. It all boils down to faith and belief.

What's waiting for those who accepted the Lord as their savior in heaven is indescribable to anyone here on earth....as a passage in the Bible said man has not seen nor heard of the rewards that awaits him in heaven for those who believes in Him.

So, stop beating yourself up about what OTHERS believe. You are doing so good as a policeman, Brett, already, putting yourself on the line everyday for the good of OTHERS.....no one MADE you become a cop....this act alone, earns you a door in the kingdom of heaven, BUT, yes, a big BUT......you've got to believe that Jesus came down to earth and died for us....to accept Christ in your heart, ask for forgiveness, believe in Him NO MATTER WHAT, and you'll get the most wonderful afterlife forever and ever. No tears, no pain, no sorrow, no sickness, no blown TA-49s, all that, gone. Just the glory of heaven with God. It's so simple....you've got to BELIEVE and ACCEPT CHRIST in your HEART, no matter what. Continue to do good as a cop, be a good cop, do what's right in your heart, and buddy, you'll probably beat ME to heaven.

I meant this to be short, but, well, sometimes I talk too much. I just hope you get my drift here. Just stop worrying about what others believe, just understand your belief in God, and help others, putting out the word about the Lord. You can't go wrong.

You and all the other cops on this board are really gifts from God as I see it...being there always to help those in trouble and keeping people from hurting one another. That's a big, big job. A very dangerous one. So, I salute you again, Brett.

Now, go accept Christ and always ask for forgivness when you do wrong. We all do wrong all the time. Just stay on the good track.

Bruce '87 Grand National
 
Ah, Brett...you're getting too philsophical and analytical and complicated here!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Now this is just from me, so look.....Jesus was sent to earth by God in a human form, because God saw how corrupt the world was....so Jesus was sent to save us from evil.....Jesus KNEW he was going to suffer all pains us humans do, and KNEW he was going to be persecuted...so he came down, performed incredible miricles, healings, teachings, etc. to try and help man end his evil ways......Jesus KNEW he was going to be nailed to the cross, and buddy, that hurt, the suffering he took on the way to the cross, all of this to show that whoever believes in HIM shall have everlasting life. One of the two crimminals who were also nailed to crosses on either side of him turned to Jesus and asked him to please forgive him, and that he believes Jesus really is the Son of God...Jesus did...and when Jesus asscended to Heaven, the crimminal also went with him.....

Jesus appeard to his disciples AFTER death for a while, just to show that there IS life AFTER death and to spread the word...

Think of it this way...what other event are we celibrating that happend 2011 years ago? The Corvette? No. The Gibson guitar? No. The Grand National? No.

This was the most incredible, unbelieveabe events that ever happend on this earth....the birth of a baby from a VIRGIN, then the persecution of Jesus by Pontus Pilate. Then the return from the dead.

Summing it up....God appeared in human form to suffer the sins of man and to ask them to accept HIM as thier savior, and was willing to die in the most painful way for man, come back to life. It all boils down to faith and belief.

What's waiting for those who accepted the Lord as their savior in heaven is indescribable to anyone here on earth....as a passage in the Bible said man has not seen nor heard of the rewards that awaits him in heaven for those who believes in Him.

So, stop beating yourself up about what OTHERS believe. You are doing so good as a policeman, Brett, already, putting yourself on the line everyday for the good of OTHERS.....no one MADE you become a cop....this act alone, earns you a door in the kingdom of heaven, BUT, yes, a big BUT......you've got to believe that Jesus came down to earth and died for us....to accept Christ in your heart, ask for forgiveness, believe in Him NO MATTER WHAT, and you'll get the most wonderful afterlife forever and ever. No tears, no pain, no sorrow, no sickness, no blown TA-49s, all that, gone. Just the glory of heaven with God. It's so simple....you've got to BELIEVE and ACCEPT CHRIST in your HEART, no matter what. Continue to do good as a cop, be a good cop, do what's right in your heart, and buddy, you'll probably beat ME to heaven.

I meant this to be short, but, well, sometimes I talk too much. I just hope you get my drift here. Just stop worrying about what others believe, just understand your belief in God, and help others, putting out the word about the Lord. You can't go wrong.

You and all the other cops on this board are really gifts from God as I see it...being there always to help those in trouble and keeping people from hurting one another. That's a big, big job. A very dangerous one. So, I salute you again, Brett.

Now, go accept Christ and always ask for forgivness when you do wrong. We all do wrong all the time. Just stay on the good track.

Bruce '87 Grand National
I accept that there is a higher power. Whatever his or her name is it doesnt really matter cause many people from many walks of life refer to him or her differently.

My grandmother is one of those religious fanitics and actually donates much of her money to one of those "Servants" of God. And she aint got much money. Gaint ripoff artists imo.

I just think its absurd for people to truly believe that if one person has a different belief then yours about heaven and earth they will go to hell. Or if they do not go to church or read the bible they cant get into heaven.

That sorta thinken is really no different then the way radical muslims think. They just take it to the extreme and blow chit up vs. debate it.

So I DO believe in him or her. How you lead ur life and how you treat others will dictate who goes on. Thats what many believe and thankfully they think that way.
 
Wow look at that site Evil Bible dot com. It it clear where you stand. You entered this chat gently like a whispering serpent and the struck with your poison.
Well I got to tell you; people think God is all about Love and gentleness and it is taken out of context. In order to preserve His people His ways can be harsh.
We are still to follow His commandments and have faith in Jesus (Rev 14:12)
No man can convince you it will take divine intervention.
And since we are offering opinion I think cops are today's Roman soldiers just protecting the tax collectors and ruling/privelegdged class....just like in the Biblical days.

Brett, this thread was about who has read the bible, nothing more. If you have such strong feelings about God, Jesus and all the religions of the world, why don't you start a thread in the political section? Thats really where your downtrodden, argumentative bs belongs.

You are contradicting yourself & completely change your facts when it is pointed out that you are wrong Brett.

You obviously know it all Brett, Why do you insist on running the OP's thread off course.

WHO'S READ THE BIBLE?

Who asked what book the muslims read?

I am pretty sure I have answered every question you have asked Brett. Did I miss one? Tell me, what question is it that you say I am refusing to answer?

You are coming off as an instigator/pot stirrer Brett, while continuing to run this thread off course, have you no respect for others?



See a pattern:frown: If you know everything why do you bother to ruin everyone's posts? Aren't there any 'animals' killing people and getting killed in the 'ghetto' that you have to tend to?

Ah, Brett...you're getting too philsophical and analytical and complicated here!!!!!!!!!:eek:

Now this is just from me, so look.....Jesus was sent to earth by God in a human form, because God saw how corrupt the world was....so Jesus was sent to save us from evil.....Jesus KNEW he was going to suffer all pains us humans do, and KNEW he was going to be persecuted...so he came down, performed incredible miricles, healings, teachings, etc. to try and help man end his evil ways......Jesus KNEW he was going to be nailed to the cross, and buddy, that hurt, the suffering he took on the way to the cross, all of this to show that whoever believes in HIM shall have everlasting life. One of the two crimminals who were also nailed to crosses on either side of him turned to Jesus and asked him to please forgive him, and that he believes Jesus really is the Son of God...Jesus did...and when Jesus asscended to Heaven, the crimminal also went with him.....

Jesus appeard to his disciples AFTER death for a while, just to show that there IS life AFTER death and to spread the word...

Think of it this way...what other event are we celibrating that happend 2011 years ago? The Corvette? No. The Gibson guitar? No. The Grand National? No.

This was the most incredible, unbelieveabe events that ever happend on this earth....the birth of a baby from a VIRGIN, then the persecution of Jesus by Pontus Pilate. Then the return from the dead.

Summing it up....God appeared in human form to suffer the sins of man and to ask them to accept HIM as thier savior, and was willing to die in the most painful way for man, come back to life. It all boils down to faith and belief.

What's waiting for those who accepted the Lord as their savior in heaven is indescribable to anyone here on earth....as a passage in the Bible said man has not seen nor heard of the rewards that awaits him in heaven for those who believes in Him.

So, stop beating yourself up about what OTHERS believe. You are doing so good as a policeman, Brett, already, putting yourself on the line everyday for the good of OTHERS.....no one MADE you become a cop....this act alone, earns you a door in the kingdom of heaven, BUT, yes, a big BUT......you've got to believe that Jesus came down to earth and died for us....to accept Christ in your heart, ask for forgiveness, believe in Him NO MATTER WHAT, and you'll get the most wonderful afterlife forever and ever. No tears, no pain, no sorrow, no sickness, no blown TA-49s, all that, gone. Just the glory of heaven with God. It's so simple....you've got to BELIEVE and ACCEPT CHRIST in your HEART, no matter what. Continue to do good as a cop, be a good cop, do what's right in your heart, and buddy, you'll probably beat ME to heaven.

I meant this to be short, but, well, sometimes I talk too much. I just hope you get my drift here. Just stop worrying about what others believe, just understand your belief in God, and help others, putting out the word about the Lord. You can't go wrong.

You and all the other cops on this board are really gifts from God as I see it...being there always to help those in trouble and keeping people from hurting one another. That's a big, big job. A very dangerous one. So, I salute you again, Brett.

Now, go accept Christ and always ask for forgivness when you do wrong. We all do wrong all the time. Just stay on the good track.

Bruce '87 Grand National


That my friend is most excellent. Give me your address so I could send you my tithe:D:cool:
 
See a pattern:frown: If you know everything why do you bother to ruin everyone's posts? Aren't there any 'animals' killing people and getting killed in the 'ghetto' that you have to tend to?
Im sure there are animals being killed in the ghetto today somewhere. Thats never gonna change.

But, you would think God would step in a little more often and prevent those killings if he was as powerful as you make him out to be.

Any of you praying for them tonight? I doubt it.
 
What about the priests that have committed sin over and over again by sexually assaulting little boys? Are they going to heaven or are their sins forgiven and go directly to the gates of Heaven?

Is that any different than Cops and underage ghetto girls?:eek::D
 
No ur just upset because I dont agree with ur BS. So are a billion muslims going to hell because they dont think Jesus is God? Yes or no?

John 14:6 Jesus said "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. The only way to the father is through me."
 
Jesus is the second only to Muhammad in the eyes of the Muslims- their holy book is just an addition to the Jewish/Christian bible.

someone already said that over a billion people aren't Christians- actually, it's more like 5 billion people..
 
John 14:6 Jesus said "I am the way, and the truth, and the life. The only way to the father is through me."

So taken literally...without any BS inperpretations.....

all the people who never even get a CHANCE to HEAR the name of Jesus...much less accept Him....

are all going to hell to be burned forever.


Do you believe that?
 
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