BWR Alcohol System Pictures

[JayC]

I wanted to post some pictures of the alcohol system we're going to be offering with the ISAC controller. This kit is actually made to our specifications by another alcohol injection kit manufacturer. This kit is installed on Shane's TFS car and with the ISAC controller controller alcohol delivery, it's made 530 horsepower at the wheels on our dyno. This is the most horsepower we've ever made with a stock block Buick. To put it in perspective, one of our customers made 496 and ran 10.40 at the track.

Our kit mounts the pump and reservoir in the trunk. The kit has a low level warning so when used with the ISAC controller, it will lower your boost when you run out of alcohol. We also will offer a flow monitor that will again lower boost should alcohol delivery fall below a specified threshold.

The kit is pretty stealth.. injects underneath the intercooler tube and the solenoid is hidden underneath the power steering reservoir bracket. The kit does use hard plastic line. We thought about upgrading it to braided stainless but decided it wasn't necessary.

We're still about 4 weeks from having production ISACs in our hand. We're also contemplating adding EGT tracking to the box so that instead of a wideband, you can use an EGT probe to control flow of the alcohol. We're trying to determine now if this can be done with just a software upgrade as the hardware is pretty much finalized.

 

[Boost231]

nice

I'm very interested in this. How are you getting the system to lower boost? Also what are you using to monitor flow to have it lower boost. I would love to have that on my car for a safety feature

 

[JayC]

The ISAC has a built in closed loop boost controller. It will control a single solenoid (Actuator style) or a dual solenoid setup (External gate) and features launch boost, boost ramping, boost tweaking based on gear input, etc.

When the ISAC detects your alcohol tank being empty, it will lower the boost down to the mechanical limits.

We have a device that measures flow that goes inline with the supply line. Again, if it measures low flow, it lowers the boost.

The ISAC has so many features, its hard to list them all. Built in data logging, wideband tracking, closed loop boost controller and we have extra inputs for future expansion. I'm lobbying now for traction control as well.

 

[Boost231]

Your device that messures flow can that be purchased seperatly from your kit? also is there any more info on this unit ie: adjustable ? Thanks for your time

 

[WH1_T-Type]

What is the cost range you are looking at?

 

[DukeGN]

Will the ISAC and the alky kit be ready at about the same time, i.e., four weeks from now?

 

[GNBRETT]

it will lower your boost when you run out of alcohol. We also will offer a flow monitor that will again lower boost should alcohol delivery fall below a specified threshold.

That is an excellent feature.

 

[JayC]

What is the cost range you are looking at?

$699ish most likely for the kit with the ISAC. The ISAC alone will probably be $399.00. It will work on any existing kits.. only one I dont know about is the SMC kit. Its been tested with Alkycontrol's pump and works fine.

 

[JayC]

Will the ISAC and the alky kit be ready at about the same time, i.e., four weeks from now?

Yes.. 4 to 6 weeks-ish

I dont know if the manual will be ready to ship with the first batch of controllers but we will have a support forum and I am available every day to answer phone calls. The ISAC isnt rocket science but it is quite involved. I invite anyone interested in the box to download the demo software and play around with it. I'll post up some logs and cal files for people to see in the thread over in the Alcohol section.

 

[WSLN 6]

Sounds like a neat system Jay! Just a note for you though, you may want to consider having braided lines as an option, since there is no track near me that will approve plastic lines, or a plastic resevoir for that matter when running meth injection.....:frown:
Just a heads up!

 

[salvageV6]

It works fine with SMC style EFI pumps, tested with two of them one an SMC pump another a Walbro GSS242 Kenne Bell pump.

Should be a great upgrade for the SMC non-progressive kits on many cars.

It should work fine with the newer SMC pump as well. I don't happen to have one to test it out however.

 

[JayC]

Sounds like a neat system Jay! Just a note for you though, you may want to consider having braided lines as an option, since there is no track near me that will approve plastic lines, or a plastic resevoir for that matter when running meth injection.....:frown:
Just a heads up!

Thats interesting because methanol is generally stored in plastic containers as its corrosive to aluminum. Since you can really only get fuel cells in plastic or aluminum, your options are limited there.

Far as the line, it would be possible to make a stainless upgrade. I dont know if the whole system would need to be upgraded or just the part under the hood. Stainless hoses in the lengths they would need to run would be very expensive.

In the next week or so Im going to see if I can modify this system to accept a Metco fuel cell in the spare tire well. You should be able to go for a while without having to add methanol if we can make it work

 

[WeSS]

alky system

That controller looks nice. That pump has alot more clamping force on the head and withstands methanol better than the surflow. I replaced a friend of mines leaky surflow with a similar unit. I would prefer it to have a/n fittings and teflon braided lines but maybe one will become available like that soon With alky systems it is pick your poison. Fancy lines and leaky pumps or a stronger pump with less expensive/durable hoses. An alky system can be made so fancy and expensive nobody will be able to afford to buy it so you have to choose what fits your needs best. Shane/Jay if you need any help with the reservoirs or anything let me know.

 

[SGRIM]

That controller looks nice. That pump has alot more clamping force on the head and withstands methanol better than the surflow. I replaced a friend of mines leaky surflow with a similar unit. I would prefer it to have a/n fittings and teflon braided lines but maybe one will become available like that soon With alky systems it is pick your poison. Fancy lines and leaky pumps or a stronger pump with less expensive/durable hoses. An alky system can be made so fancy and expensive nobody will be able to afford to buy it so you have to choose what fits your needs best. Shane/Jay if you need any help with the reservoirs or anything let me know.

Thanks Wes, you are da man:biggrin: