Calling Nick Micale - TA Aluminum V6???

[Trbobuick]

qwknuf6 jr- according to some sources, the next block, the rasied cam block, will go out to 305 cubes

Good times.

4.2 bore 3.625 stroke= 301.26

 

[S2V6RACER]

I see it this way. Once the engine is developed and the "off the shelf" block are available, I see the cost for the block as much or slightley less than a properly built stage II. Key is that this will be available from 1 builder who's reputation at that point will be unchallenged, unlike the people who have the magical powers to build the stage II's. There will be no more "who around here builds stage II motors". You will be able to have a engine in a day if your vendor stocks it. Try that with a stage motor. Once it's reliablility is proven, it will be a highley sought after engine. Yes, the stage II motors will always have a place, but it surely will be nice knowing if you have the cheese available, you can have a motor almost overnight.

As far as $3500 for the block, I don't think that is overpriced. These guys spend some $$ developing it, and have to get their investement back. As said in previous posts, it is fully machined, no screwing around and hidden costs. One that can appriciate this is somebody that has to put $$ into a used stage II block to make it usable.

As far as the heads go, I am rooting for TA to show Champion a new benchmark.

 

[qwknuf6 jr]

Originally posted by Trbobuick
qwknuf6 jr- according to some sources, the next block, the rasied cam block, will go out to 305 cubes

Good times.

4.2 bore 3.625 stroke= 301.26

Brian
Do you know if the bore on the T/A block will go to 3.200?
That is a large bore for for a buick v-6. It would make for a killer engine

Thanks Mark

 

[Two Lane]

****When?****

So, if someone put a deposit down on the new block & heads today, what is reasonably projected (based on all available info today) as a viable delivery date?

This info will help lots of folks plan accordingly.

TIA!

 

[XXQUICK6XX]

T/A Performance

All I want to say is I am very pleased at he progress and it is definately in my future just a few obsticles before getting it but will definately want to build with a billet crank. Definately a twin turbo candidate. Thanks to Mike and all involved and will see you all in Bowling Green in 2003.

Steve

 

[Trbobuick]

mark,

i would assume with the aluminum block, a 4.20 sleeve will be possible, ala our ls1 brother are doing now.

I cant wait!!

 

[86brick]

Like I said in my earlier post whether people like it or not the TA block is NOT overpriced and when you consider what it will cost for an aftermarket block like the Ford SVO and Chevy BowTie block (when fully machined like the TA block both are in the $3000-$3500 price range) it actually sounds like a very good price.... why you ask? Because the Turbo Buick community is small compared to the Ford and Chevy guys and we are spending about the same for a very strong fully machined block that is comparable to both the SVO and BowTie block!!!! I think the one thing most people don't understand is how the profit margin for a certain product can affect the price and in this case it isn't at all from what I can see and when you take into account what it costs for a Stage II block to be fully machined (machine work is NOT cheap) so again I ask how can you say that it's pricey Unless you are also saying that the BowTie, SVO, and Stage II blocks are also pricey, that statement makes no sense! As I said before and this time I'll coin a different phrase (maybe my own).... "If you want to go fast you have to spend your money just as fast" meaning the faster you want to go the more you will spend and it never ends until you are happy and content! To answer your question TRBON8R, no I'm not on the waiting list, but I will be just as soon as I have $3500 saved up (if all goes well that will be soon)

 

[Two Lane]

When someone pops their stock block TR 3.8, & goes through the grief, time, delays, & expenses afterwards, $3500 for the T/A block starts sounding like a bargain...

Membership in the DOMC club is EXTREMELY expensive!

 

[tazgn]

Nick,
I too am interested in a projected release date of these monsters. It almost sounds like you guys will be able to sell a complete crate motor soon with all the parts in development!!

I just hope you guys don't take the initial people putting down payments on the first run as the only people who will buy these blocks. I PLAN on it, but don't have the money right now and not really pushing getting the money until the blocks become available (probably next summer when I get my bonus).

Derrick

 

[NJTurbo]

It would be really nice if they gave a trade in on the S2 engines, then you would really see them come out of the woodwork.

 

[jetmech]

Hey Travis, I got the check in thurs, but i worked from 9 am to 12 midnight. I deposited it fri(today) It should clear by monday. Your parts should go out monday 3 day thru the post office. Thanks.

 

[jetmech]

Deposit prices on heads

Hey Nick, just wondering what the deposit on a set of head (8 bolt) would be. Would they do a lay a-way plan also. If you want shoot me an e-mail or post here. Thanks Rich.

 

[PCS74]

4.2" bore - not likely


Chris S

 

[tazgn]

Oh, and Nick. Don't mean to be "wanty", but how about devloping some twin turbo headers for this block. I mean, why not go for the gusto when I finally get one.

Derrick

 

[Nick Micale]

Originally posted by tazgn
Nick,
I too am interested in a projected release date of these monsters. It almost sounds like you guys will be able to sell a complete crate motor soon with all the parts in development!!

I just hope you guys don't take the initial people putting down payments on the first run as the only people who will buy these blocks. I PLAN on it, but don't have the money right now and not really pushing getting the money until the blocks become available (probably next summer when I get my bonus).

Derrick

There are a few reasons for now taking a deposit on the block.

One of them being the need to know how to machine the casting. The raw casting was designed so that it can be made into either an off-center block like the stock one, or a racing version which is the on-center. A deposit now places the person in line, as well as defines which selection he wants.

Since the castings will be made in batches, "the place in line" is how they will be delivered. This may be important if you understand there may only be one or 2 batches a year initially. Do the math on the cost of inventorying lots of finished blocks and heads? The initial run may be small if only a few deposits are in house when the casting order for blocks is placed.

Interest may be there, but unless deposits are in hand, we have to guess as to how many will actually be purchased initially. Or how long will we have them on the shelf?

Again, the interest and positive feedback is certainly appreciated. Just felt it was necessary to allow everyone to view our side of bringing these new products to market and some of the unseen challenges we face.

 

[Two Lane]

****When?****


So, if someone put a deposit down on the new block & heads today, what is reasonably projected (based on all available info today) as a viable delivery date?

Also, how much down as a deposit?

This info will help lots of folks plan accordingly.

TIA!


__________________

 

[Nick Micale]

Originally posted by tazgn
Oh, and Nick. Don't mean to be "wanty", but how about devloping some twin turbo headers for this block. I mean, why not go for the gusto when I finally get one.
Derrick

Glad you keep "wanting" Derrick!

We try to stay one step ahead in developing products, but the twin turbo headers are still way out!

As many may know, TA performance has done many styles and types of Buick headers for years. The first step into the V-6 turbo headers will be stock replacements, as the 15 year-old originals are rapidly getting worn out.

The ones we are now getting ready to test in the next few weeks are just that, stock replacments of our design. The performance, big-tube and specials like the twin turbo are not yet in process.

There are also other areas we are investigating for turbo performance products as TA plans to be a major Buick supplier for well into the future.

As far as deposits and lay-a-way plans on heads as well as blocks, it is best to contact TA directly. Their phone no. is: 480-922-6807.

 

[Trbobuick]

Nick- will a 4.2 inch bore liner this block will fit? or will i have to build a 4 X 4 motor? 4" bore, 4 " stroke = 301.5 cubes

 

[6APPEAL]

My wife is happy that the talk of S2 has stopped, but I'm now thinking of the TA setup. The price is a little out of my range just now, but a complete setup (block, crank, rods, heads, intake) is not yet ready. So I'll bide my time and re-build my stock steup, not go balls to the wall and wait. Kudos to TA Performance for getting into the Turbo V6 game, but I always believed it was just a matter of time. They just can't leave Buicks alone.

 

[turboculosis]

Originally posted by Nick Micale
The conservative estimates are 1200-1500 HP. Some "experts" that are very experienced in race motors have said even more than that!

Can you say 6 seconds?.....