Can a TE60 get me a 10 sec slip???

[Vett-Klr]

Do I need a bigger turbo to run a 10.99???

Mods are:
TE60
Champion Ported heads
212 212 roller cam
3200 stall
dual fuel pumps
ATR downpipe
ATR headers
MDS 50's
upper/lower control arms
aluminum wheels w/DR's

Recently bought the car, haven't had it to the track yet. I does not have a cage, so I'll assume it runs 11.50 or higher

 

[Razor]

Dont think so.. unless you can cut an extremely low 60 foot.

Easier.. you have heads and cam.. put a turbo on the car.. like a 63/66/67.. and you may run out of injectors with 50's if running on race gas.

Same combo is my sig, except te67 turbo, bigger injectors, alcohol injection..


And lots of tuning

HTH

 

[matt87]

put some 60# ers on there and a 66 and you'll be like my combo.

 

[Razor]

put some 60# ers on there and a 66 and you'll be like my combo.

 

[Blazer406]

Do I need a bigger turbo to run a 10.99???

Mods are:
TE60
Champion Ported heads
212 212 roller cam
3200 stall
dual fuel pumps
ATR downpipe
ATR headers
MDS 50's
upper/lower control arms
aluminum wheels w/DR's

Recently bought the car, haven't had it to the track yet. I does not have a cage, so I'll assume it runs 11.50 or higher

I think it is possible..... but all the stars have to be aligned....air has to be great.... ect.....

I agree with Razor and others.... it would be easier with a bigger hair drier....and injectors....

 

[Eticket]

How far into the 10's do you want to go?

It would be easier with a bigger turbo. but, I do know 3 guys that have gone 125mph with a TE60 and MSD 50's. They only went 11.00's because they, for what ever reason, didn't '60 ft their cars well, 1.6-1.7's! With a 3200 stall, that should be easy for you and 10.9x's quite possible. You need to go 1.55's.

I basically had your combo (same cam, home ported heads, pt52) and went 11.30 @ 121mph with 22psi and 1.80 60ft (brakes didn't hold that day). The next time out I had a vacuum leak causing boost drop at the top of every gear. 23psi down to 16psi in every gear and still went 7.0 in the 1/8th (1.58 '60). I didn't try to get into the 10's anymore because of lack of billet main caps.

As with any 10 sec run, everything has to be "right", tuning, bigger turbo and injectors or not. Given you have a good intercooler, I personnally think you have enough.

 

[Vett-Klr]

Well it made its maiden voyage on Saturday, I don't see it happening, but I'll still try.
I ran 15 poounds of boost and went 12.1 with at 1.9 60 foot. I had slight knock and since it was the cars first time out, I didn't push it, plus I got booted for leaking tranny fluis, although I never found any.
I figure with a good 60 I'll gain a couple of tenths, and if I can get the boost up to 23 pounds safely I may eek out a mid 11.
Since I'd rather baby the car instead of pushing it to its limits to a 10.99 I'll get a turbo and injectors.
10.99 is the fastest I want to go, I just want to be able to say it's a 10 seond car. Of course I say that now......

 

[Blazer406]

Well it made its maiden voyage on Saturday, I don't see it happening, but I'll still try.
I ran 15 poounds of boost and went 12.1 with at 1.9 60 foot. I had slight knock and since it was the cars first time out, I didn't push it, plus I got booted for leaking tranny fluis, although I never found any.
I figure with a good 60 I'll gain a couple of tenths, and if I can get the boost up to 23 pounds safely I may eek out a mid 11.
Since I'd rather baby the car instead of pushing it to its limits to a 10.99 I'll get a turbo and injectors.
10.99 is the fastest I want to go, I just want to be able to say it's a 10 seond car. Of course I say that now......

I see a 1.6 60' time giving you an ET of 11.65 in the quarter..... and that was 15#...... surely there is .65 in other tuning... + and extra 10# or more boost....

If you could go 1.50 60' .... (still doeable) ... your ET would possibly go to 11.50..... and you haven't cut the boost up yet.....

I think that is a great outing for the first time....

 

[Vett-Klr]

Thanks for the vote of confidence...Here are my splits from the pass:

15# boost (but the gauge did creep up to 16-18 in 3rd gear)

60' 2.016
330' 5.201
660' 7.889
MPH 91.24
1000' 10.212
1/4 12.175
MPH 114.69

I'm easily in the 11's with a good or even decent 60'

 

[Eticket]

Yeah.. don't know if it's tires or what.. but the 60's are the key to the ET... anyone can run big MPH all day long without ever getting into the 10's and sometimes 11's.

good luck.

 

[Royal-T-Ltd]

DAYYYAAAAMNNN 12.175 and 114.69 mph on 15-17lbs of boost on just a TE 60...... i've got a 60-1 and am just getting back to track after 2yr hiatus and starting to get the tune back [after some mods] and have run 25lbs and havent run as fast yet [like i said just starting to get it dialed in] but dayyyyaaammmn - i guess people werent joking when they said the power is in the heads... how much timing are you running to cut a 2.X 60ft and still mph like you are on ONLY 16lbs of boost?

Thanks for the vote of confidence...Here are my splits from the pass:

15# boost (but the gauge did creep up to 16-18 in 3rd gear)

60' 2.016
330' 5.201
660' 7.889
MPH 91.24
1000' 10.212
1/4 12.175
MPH 114.69

I'm easily in the 11's with a good or even decent 60'

 

[Vett-Klr]

DAYYYAAAAMNNN 12.175 and 114.69 mph on 15-17lbs of boost on just a TE 60...... i've got a 60-1 and am just getting back to track after 2yr hiatus and starting to get the tune back [after some mods] and have run 25lbs and havent run as fast yet [like i said just starting to get it dialed in] but dayyyyaaammmn - i guess people werent joking when they said the power is in the heads... how much timing are you running to cut a 2.X 60ft and still mph like you are on ONLY 16lbs of boost?

I'm running the stock timing. I was on race fuel but since it was the cars first time out and I had slight knock, I didn't push it. I don't really know how to tune it yet.
I've heard that was a good time with such little boost, but I'm used to racing Corvettes, this is a whole new ballgame. :biggrin:

 

[Super6]

Vett-Klr

Those are some nice times at that low of boost. Ported heads sure do help these cars. i have a te44 that i am going to try and push to the 11 o's...i know everything will have to be right to do this. it would be easier with a bigger turbo but i still have the stock d5 so i am limited right now. there are quite a few turbo's that you could go with a 3200 stall. As soon as my trans craps i will be getting me a stall .................................................Bob

 

[LUCKY1313]

One thing with the ported heads, your turbo flows alot more than you think because its not boost that makes the power but air flow. So the turbo may not go as high on boost as you would expect, it could reach its max without going to its max boost is what I am saying.

With that said, that 60ft time will give you some great ET when you work it down. One 10th in the 60ft "may" do as good as giving 2 to 3 10th in the 1/4. Of course the faster you get the more it takes to gain ET. But if you get that 60 down to 1.6 or 1.5 you will be mid to low 11s no problem with the boost you are running it would seem. Boosting 15 & creeping to 18 may be helping here to.

The tune is every thing when you start pushing things. Learn how & get picky with it because it will make or break your car.

Very Nice pass for first time out though. Just remember, in the end small steps will get you there quicker than just cranking it up. Good luck & keep us informed on progress.


Jess

 

[BillyRValentine]

There have been people that have run 10's with both a TE-44 and a TE-60. It is allot more likely with a good set of heads as boost is not the deciding factor but airflow and the overall VE of the motor. Anything you can do to improve these issues will certainly help you in your quest. A friend of mines son here in Montgomery ran an 11.15 with a TE-60 and a completely stock long block so I know a set of heads would have put him in the 10's with that particular turbo. Good luck to ya.

Jim C.

 

[turbojoes]

I'll run 10.80's anyday and best of 10.61@125 with a 1.44 60ft. te60with 20lbs of boost. th400,gn1,msd 50's,eastern front mount intercooler,roller cam,presicion converter,ported intake,southside machine lift bars. I think that this is a good as you'll get with turbo and 50lbs injectors.

 

[1of1547]

My set up is very similar to yours. At Indy I ran a best of 11.08@121 with a 1.59 60 foot. I was running 25-26#s of boost and 20 degrees of timing. I tried to get into the 10's. But the tranny let go on the line.

 

[DCVING]

I definatly can agree that a bigger turbo and injectors could get you to the 10's. I do beleive that tuning tuning tuning would be the first thing you should do. Many of us have gone the route of going with bigger and more exspensive parts, but with no luck some of us have gone slower or hurt our cars. I think before you try going with a 66 turbo and 60lbers you tune your car safely and get the best ET possible before you upgrade.

I had a T with 352k orig mile right down to a stock rebuilt turbo, "check my sig" it ran 12.2@111 with minor bolt-ons and a good amount of tuning. I was hoping to run 13's with it and when it went 12.2 on the 2nd pass I was like WOW.

My current T has .020 over JE's with billet mains, Dale Cherry big valve heads, 212-212 flat tappet TE-61, stock strech IC, 65lb F.A.S.T inj, 3"THDP, stock headers. I havent got to fully tune the car yet but on 18psi and a really bad track I ran in the 11.8 @ 117 with a 1.72 60 on Nitto drag's. I figure once I get it tuned and a good weather day and a decent track with a 15lb T-brake launch and 27-29psi of boost I should be in the 10s.

Like many have said Its getting all the ducks in a row and running at the same time to get the number we all strive for.

 

[2QUICK2B6]

Te60

the power must be in the heads & tune ,i want to go as fast as i can on stock cam and stock unported heads. So far best is 11.85@111 that was with a 1.63 60ft .

 

[Turbo6Smackdown]

with a 60, i think you could bust a 10.99. ive seen cars with smaller turbos run low 11's already.... with stock heads too. i think your parts arent playing well with each other. to get 10.99 with what you got (which is entirely possible) you better take many passes with turbo link, print em out, grab a few manuals, and go to sleep with em. every night. once you burn the midnight oil for a few weeks, maybe a few calls to some of the businesses on this sites main page for some more advice, im TOTALLY sure you could bust the 10 second timeslip. totally. though watch out for supporting issues.. Transmission, axles, u joints, trans coolers etc etc...
Once our bricks start to reach the 10's, things start to break. Though, once ANY cars reaches that area, things start to break lol. Be careful, carry a fire extinguisher in your car, and read read read... every night. Youll be there in no time, and the new Z06's will be wondering what the heck is happening..