Choosing an aluminium enclosed trailer… Haulmark or ATC?

[Chuck Leeper]

1. The winch can be mtd external, on the tongue, or in a below floor compartment.
The FL we had, had the winch parallel to the dr side wall. The cable ran thru a snatch block hooked into a flush d ring in the center of the floor.
Not in use? retract the cable, put the block away. Clear floor, nothing to fall over.
Our winch also had a wireless control... A NEAT option on some of the better winches.

As for the winch....A min of 5000# single line pull. {8K is what we used}. Take a look at the newer cables... Not braided steel, any longer.

 

[turbotroy]

Thanks for the info, Chuck.

 

[SS/GN]

Claude give me a call some time. here is a pic of my ATC. I am considering a 20 ft enclosed.(I know it is small) and I might put sleds in it for the winter.

 

[SS/GN]

Here is the package I like.

http://www.racingjunk.com/New-Trailers/182758278/8.5-x-24-ATC-Raven-Car-Hauler.html#2
http://www.racingjunk.com/New-Trail...UM-CARHAULER-LED-LIGHTS-ALUM-WHEELS-MORE.html

 

[toofastforyou]

Claude give me a call some time.

Kevin, it would be a pleasure to call you but…please e-mail me your phone#!…

Claude.
e-mail: toofastforyou@sympatico.ca

 

[toofastforyou]

Knowing you I don't think you will be happy with a cheaper trailer.

Kevin, the more I look, the more I think ATC will be out of the question because too expensive.
So right now, I am looking at Haulmark, Millenium and United …
I like this one: http://inventory.milltrailers.com/2017-24-new-millennium-extreme-race-trailer-o75b.html
Anyway, I still have several months ahead of me to do more researching and who knows…maybe a good deal will show up!
Claude.

 

[gnxtc2]

Check out Bravo and United Trailers.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[toofastforyou]

Check out Bravo and United Trailers.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

I just checked BRAVO and I wouldn't be surprised if they were built at the same shop (VINTAGE) who also builds the MILLENIUM because a lot of details look very similar….

I also checked UNITED which also look nice but their website doesn't show much pictures, only a list of what you can order but more pictures would've been nice. All the ones I saw were basic models, not loaded ones…

Claude.

 

[gnxtc2]

Go on Bruce Litton Trailer site. If you can't find anything, give them a call as they have good prices on United Trailers.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[toofastforyou]

Go on Bruce Litton Trailer site. If you can't find anything, give them a call as they have good prices on United Trailers.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

Thanks Billy for the link. In the meantime, I searched and found this one: http://www.trailerenterprises.com/index_files/UnitedUnlimited8524TA52Black142678.htm which seems to me a very nice trailer! I think it's about the equivalent to the Millenium I was looking at the other day and to which I posted a link in post #26 (but maybe with a few more "goodies")… The only thing missing is the large left side escape door but I sent them a message asking if they can add one.

Thanks everyone for your comments, keep 'em coming!

Claude.

 

[Chuck Leeper]

5300# empty....How does that compare to the alum units?

 

[toofastforyou]

5300# empty....How does that compare to the alum units?

I found a 24' Brave at 5,580lbs, a Continental Cargo 24' at 4,500 lbs, a 24' Haulmark at 5,700 lbs.
By comparison an aluminum 24' ATC "Quest 205" advertised at 3,484 lbs an all-aluminum 24' Sundowner at 4,190 lbs…so I guess the weight of the steel 24'United is in right in the ballpark with other steel trailers…

Claude.

 

[GinoRin]

Claude, what did you end up deciding to do for a trailer? I too am in the market for a spread axle 24' aluminum hauler with a desire for a lot of the same options you are/were looking for. I had my search narrowed down to an ATC Quest (the lack of a center bar tongue frame on the raven makes me nervous) and the Haulmark ALX Aluminum. The options I'm looking for are a premium escape door with removable fender, some sort of finished walls and floor, maybe some overhead cabinets, winch plate setup, but I am also looking for a full width rear door with flush mount handles (no cam lock bars on the exterior) and 5200-6000# axles. I'll be pulling primarily with my 2016 Silverado 1500 which is why I want aluminum. I've looked at several brands of aluminum trailers, and currently own an Aluma open (VERY nice quality and excellent welds) as well as a 20' Bravo steel frame enclosed cargo trailer (only had it a year, not super impressed with it but nice enough quality for a work trailer which is how we use it) and I was shocked to see some of the junk in the market. I am not a welder by any means, but I am pretty sure I could have welded some of the trailers I looked at better than the factory did. They were horrible. So far I've looked at Mission, EZ Hauler, Neo, Triton, Lightning, Bravo aluminum, ATC, and Haulmark. I will say some of the worst I saw were the EZ hauler and Mission - good looking trailers, good price point, but horrible fit and finish. I was impressed with the ATC and surprisingly impressed with the Haulmark ALX. Both had very nice welds and the haulmark also had some nice features like a piano hinge rear door and nice drop skirt setup on the spread axle. I am surprised to see the negative reviews on the Haulmark as they looked pretty well built and engineered to me, welds looked good and decent fit and finish. I would love to do a new Featherlite 4930 or an InTech but my budget tops out around $16-18k. Any help you can lend would be appreciated, I am hoping to order something in the next week or two.
Thanks!
Gino

p.s. let me know how you GN fit in with the escape door!

 

[toofastforyou]

Claude, what did you end up deciding to do for a trailer? I too am in the market for a spread axle 24' aluminum hauler with a desire for a lot of the same options you are/were looking for. I had my search narrowed down to an ATC Quest (the lack of a center bar tongue frame on the raven makes me nervous) and the Haulmark ALX Aluminum. The options I'm looking for are a premium escape door with removable fender, some sort of finished walls and floor, maybe some overhead cabinets, winch plate setup, but I am also looking for a full width rear door with flush mount handles (no cam lock bars on the exterior) and 5200-6000# axles. I'll be pulling primarily with my 2016 Silverado 1500 which is why I want aluminum. I've looked at several brands of aluminum trailers, and currently own an Aluma open (VERY nice quality and excellent welds) as well as a 20' Bravo steel frame enclosed cargo trailer (only had it a year, not super impressed with it but nice enough quality for a work trailer which is how we use it) and I was shocked to see some of the junk in the market. I am not a welder by any means, but I am pretty sure I could have welded some of the trailers I looked at better than the factory did. They were horrible. So far I've looked at Mission, EZ Hauler, Neo, Triton, Lightning, Bravo aluminum, ATC, and Haulmark. I will say some of the worst I saw were the EZ hauler and Mission - good looking trailers, good price point, but horrible fit and finish. I was impressed with the ATC and surprisingly impressed with the Haulmark ALX. Both had very nice welds and the haulmark also had some nice features like a piano hinge rear door and nice drop skirt setup on the spread axle. I am surprised to see the negative reviews on the Haulmark as they looked pretty well built and engineered to me, welds looked good and decent fit and finish. I would love to do a new Featherlite 4930 or an InTech but my budget tops out around $16-18k. Any help you can lend would be appreciated, I am hoping to order something in the next week or two.
Thanks!
Gino

p.s. let me know how you GN fit in with the escape door!

Gino, I ended up buying a 24ft. all aluminum AMERICAN HAULER enclosed trailer, black exterior, 7,000# torsion axles, 16" 8 bolt alloy wheels, fully equipped interior with rubber coin floor covering with an in the floor recessed spare tire compartment, electric winch, led lighting inside and out + 110 volt lighting as well, cabinets with a closet, driver side escape door, carpeted lower walls, aluminum rear wing, rear ramp door with flap and flush mount recessed latches, etc…
I haven't took delivery of it yet but I should very soon, a week or two. I had some inside ramps installed by the dealer so the bottom of my car's door would clear the bottom of the side escape door. I ordered it from Jason Deitsch trailer sales in Edgerton, OH. (http://www.jasondietschtrailersales.com) .
Here a re a few pictures…
Thanks,

Claude.

--> P.S: Believe it or not, but the Featherlite 4930 model is actually a rebadged HAULMARK as both these makes are owned by the same company (Universal Trailer Corporation) who owns Exxis, Haulmark, Featherlite, Sooner and Wells Cargo.

 

[Boost231]

big $$$$.. nice setup