Did I install this cam sensor correct?

[ScottHeidinger]

http://www.vortexbuicks-etc.com/cam_sensor.htm




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[captndave737]

I’ve always done it this way from the factory manual and never had a problem. I don’t remove any pins. I made a jumper that goes between the male and female sides so I can make the adjustment without removing any pins.

 

[87WE4!!]

Make sure you read the instructions for the Casper’s cap. You set your balancer to 0 then set it with the led. If you’re trying to set it using the led at 25 degrees it’s not gonna work. It sounds like this is your issue.


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No I used the Casper’s sticker that goes on the crankshaft pulley and I lined one end of the sticker at the notch and the other end of the sticker at the zero mark. The actual notch isn’t at zero. They give you stickers to show you how to get to 25 degree past TDC. Honestly I really don’t get it. I have spark on every cylinder (the wires are correct) all the plugs smell like gas, I have good even compression all around, I have standing voltage at all the injector harness plugs, I don’t have a noid tester. It doesn’t make sense the car won’t even start on starting fluid. I also replaced the battery and all the battery cables (took care of the hot cable problems).

I got nothing guys. I’m getting sick of doing this. It’s was running when I got it. I’m so tempted to sell it but I’ll keep trying.
It makes absolutely no sense. I got a red light on the cam tool. The vacuum block is capped off for now as is the egr valve. I’ll post a pic of my timing marks from when I installed it.
Thank all you guys. You are the best

 

[ScottHeidinger]

Don’t give up and post it on Craigslist [emoji872]


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[ScottHeidinger]

I’m 1.5 hours north of you. If you can’t figure it out I will meet you at your car one day during the week when my kids are in school and I’m off


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[87WE4!!]

Is the crank sensor set correctly and not hitting the reluctor wheel?

I have spark in all 6.
Please check my timing marks from when I put the cam in

 

[87WE4!!]

I’m 1.5 hours north of you. If you can’t figure it out I will meet you at your car one day during the week when my kids are in school and I’m off


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Thank you

 

[87WE4!!]

If it will help this is the cam card for the comp cam and lifters I installed. I read the instructions 3 times before I installed it. I took my time installing it. I lubed it. And I most definitely did not bang it into anything while installing it. It’s my first cam job but I really took my time , cleaned everything and did it according to the instructions. And yes they are the good hardened bottom lifters.
Thanks, love you guys for looking at my case.

 

[87WE4!!]

Ok I just tried everything
-tested each injector (#2 is seized and shorted out. All others “click” with 12volts) but since I have spark and compression it should start or at least pop with starting Fluid in the intake. Nothing, won’t even pop anymore.
-double checked spark in all cylinders
-standing 12v at all injectors Hot wires
-tried the tDC (without the 25 degrees and lined it up like posted)
-fully charged 4 day old battery

I know I said one injector is shot. But it should still at least do something with spark, compression,and starter fluid. I don’t get it. I’m the original owner of my other WE4 and in 32 years I never had issues. Except for a turbo in 89 which the dealer fixed.

Honestly guys I’m not in the best of health. I worked at ground zero in ny ny from 9-11-01 till I think February of 02 and my breathing is horrible. I don’t know if I can continue this project anymore. The sad thing is I already bought everything needed to restore this. Including a new full floor board, carpet, seat ,covers, headliner, led tails, brand new tires, new trunk lid, and complete set of all the weatherstripping. So I honestly don’t know where I’m at with this now. I have every single document that was ever generated for this car including the window sticker, dealer bos, original title and welcome to Buick letter. As well as all the original 1987 dated eagle GTs kept inside (well those were from my original WE4 which I’ll never sell). And a Alky kit. I gotta think about this. I got 11k into this already. This is Daytona Beach so any offer will be a lame one. But do I really want to keep paying $300 a month storage. Hell with it for today I’m goin for a beer.
Once again all of y’all are awesome

 

[87WE4!!]

I’ll tell y’all one thing being a bike mechanic is 1000x easier then cars.

 

[ScottHeidinger]

What injectors do you have?


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[87WE4!!]

Stock

 

[raregn]

If it will help this is the cam card for the comp cam and lifters I installed. I read the instructions 3 times before I installed it. I took my time installing it. I lubed it. And I most definitely did not bang it into anything while installing it. It’s my first cam job but I really took my time , cleaned everything and did it according to the instructions. And yes they are the good hardened bottom lifters.
Thanks, love you guys for looking at my case.

That's the same cam I have, and my car runs great.

I'm only asking the following question because I've seen it done more than once.
Did you put the push rods in?

 

[ScottHeidinger]

I think I have a set of 30# injectors and a TT chip. If I can find them I will send them to you


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[Hahny]

I know exactly how you feel about right now, but don't throw the towel in just yet. I had the very same thing happen to me last spring when I did my build and I had to use the Vortex No Start Tree. Long story short it was my cam sensor not set correctly.

 

[87WE4!!]

That's the same cam I have, and my car runs great.

I'm only asking the following question because I've seen it done more than once.
Did you put the push rods in?

Yes, I bought the pushrods comp cams recommend for the warranty. They are the same size as the stock ones. But yes I put them in.

 

[earlbrown]

If comp cams tech ''support'' knew anything about actually using their products, they would have said ''You need to measure to know the length you need''.


....or at least said ''You need to buy this pushrod measuring tool from us, then call back with the length you need''.

 

[ttypewhite]

Take a picture of your crank sensor and post it. I want to make sure the reluctor ring is going through the correct slot. Also look at your fuse panel inside the car and check to make sure none of your fuses have popped. See the diagram for help below.

 

[87WE4!!]

If comp cams tech ''support'' knew anything about actually using their products, they would have said ''You need to measure to know the length you need''.


....or at least said ''You need to buy this pushrod measuring tool from us, then call back with the length you need''.

Take a picture of your crank sensor and post it. I want to make sure the reluctor ring is going through the correct slot. Also look at your fuse panel inside the car and check to make sure none of your fuses have popped. See the diagram for help below.
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[87WE4!!]

I do have spark so I didn’t think this was an issue. Would this really make the car not start at all? I know I have a burnt out #2 injector as well.