Fake GNX parts on ebay,halfdozenbuzen

[broke1]

eBay Motors: 1987 87 Buick 3.8 TURBO GNX HEAT TURBO SHIELD COVER (item 320197802808 end time Dec-24-07 19:26:03 PST)


I asked the guy for a picture of the underside to see if it was real or fake and this is the message I get back


I own a business that works on the cars these come from. My wife is a lawyer and if anything is posted as you say. I will be forced to take legal action for slander you want to be the big man and tell lies just because I dont want to answer your harassing email go ahead and do so. I can track you down and bring to court and if you think I am kidding go ahead I belong to that site also. I can get a court order for the person that runs the site to give up your information. Because anything said on that site could be a threat to my business and my reputation. Read the auction it says what it is and that's that. Keep it up and you will see I will get more out of you for your threat then what this auction sold for. Trust me I dont lie when I say I will sue you over this treat I have all your emails which is harassment.



Guy is clearly a nut job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[detaildave]

NUT JOB THIS DUDE IS WACKED,IF ITS THE REAL THING JUST SEND A PICTURE IF ITS NOT ....... THEN HE WONT SEND THE PHOTO TO PROVE IT ''CAUSE IT AINT'''' JUST ANOTHER EBAYER SELLING JUNK, BUT HIS WIFE MIGHT BE A '''''BIG TIME LAWYER''''' SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY YOU MIGHT SLANDER HIM I'LL BE VIGILANT OF HIS ADS THANKS

 

[stack1]

These guys that threaten slander have no idea what they're talking about. It's an empty threat. The burdon of proof is so heavy on the plaintiff that it's nearly impossible. He has to prove that broke1 knew he was spreading a lie and that lie cost you business. There is no way to prove that he knows it's a real GNX shield. Even if he could, then you have to prove that the statement caused actual damages. It ain't happening. But for that kind of scratch, that better be a real shield or someone is going to be very disappointed.

 

[Chuck Leeper]

One day, someone will rearrange his teeth, and then his ambulance chaser wife, will have a reason to go to court..

 

[gn4u2c]

SON OF A BTICH !!!!!! I could have got a real GNX shield for $250.00 a few years back and passed !! For a smart guy I can sure have some blonde moments...

 

[PaCemkr86]

funny thread... what a joke.. i agree if its real.. send the dam pic

 

[turbo-G-BODY]

What's being left out is the email from what he's stating is his first email to what he's saying was my first and only reply. He asked for a picture of the underside which wouldn't of been a problem but I also got a B. S remark about trying to stick it to the uninformed. My auction states out right it is a 1987 87 Buick 3.8 TURBO GNX HEAT TURBO SHIELD COVER , 1987 3.8 Turbo 231 V 6 GNX T-TYPE GN GRAND NATIONAL, In the description it says this auction is for one used cover that will fit Buick turbo cars and GNX. Bought it at a swap meet and decided not to use it. No where in the auction did I state it was an original or a copy. Which Broke1 has yet to point out in all his words. I looked at his feedback on ebay before replying to his 1st email to make sure I wasn't wasting my time. I noticed that he had 5 negatives and 1 neutral. My auction states no bidders with high negative I blocked him and sent this saying BLOCKED .Which obviously upset him. After receiving his second email which said WHat that mean??Trying to stick it to the uninformed ebayer?TR guys. I responded saying those that can read know what there buying its all in the auctions description and title of the auction nothing hidden and nothing falsified. Where it came from and what it is there buying. And it also says ask any questions before bidding not after. What I got in reply from him was ( Well see when I post on the Buick boards who you areYou ought to be ashamed for trying to rip off the uninformed,if it were real,you wouldn't mind taking a pic of the bottom of it.) I typed fast is why "whatS that mean" dumb ass. Dont worry,I will post it on all of them,sue away bitch!!hahaha- drew231v6

This is where my reply that he is showing came from it was not my first answer to his emails it was my last after dealing with his attitude over and over saying he's going to post all over about me on something I never said in my auction that it was an ORIGINAL part is says gnx turbo cover in which it says on it. What did he expect me to say ford turbo cover. It says what it fits and never said it was off of car number#@@ of 500 and something G-NXs. And yes my wife is a lawyer and not everyone is an ambulance chaser those that seem very much not to have a good remark always say something like this about them.When they think this is the only law field out there. Then you get a remark on here that One day, someone will rearrange his teeth, and then his ambulance chaser wife, will have a reason to go to court. With remarks like this you I wonder if Chuck Leeper has the same attitude as broke1. This is like saying all mechanics are grease monkeys or that everyone that owns a garage is out to screw the customer. It sounds like an uneducated response. I think you should all look at the feedback of drew231v6 on ebay before you past judgement on me it seems his feedback speaks for his actions towards other ebayers and from where he feels his emails to me have to be treats to me as a seller and to post everywhere about me. Look at his 89 feedbacks in 6 years and 5 negatives. Where I have done almost 1300 positive feedbacks in 7 years and 38 positive just in 1 month. I wonder just how many people you think are uninformed at what I am selling.

 

[broke1]

Youre full of it!!!

Ive got a repro new in the box,why would I need yours

I asked you for a picture because I thought it was a repro....which we know it is or youd have taken a picture!!!!!!!!!!

I feel sorry for the dumb bastard that bought it thinking it was real.

Which for $1000,im positive they did!!!

 

[turbo87regal]

Youre full of it!!!

Ive got a repro new in the box,why would I need yours

I asked you for a picture because I thought it was a repro....which we know it is or youd have taken a picture!!!!!!!!!!

I feel sorry for the dumb bastard that bought it thinking it was real.

Which for $1000,im positive they did!!!

I think its funny that you bash this guy for selling a repro for $1000 when you were trying to sell your repro for $1250 without even providing pictures. If you read the 9th post in the link it says you will only take pictures to list it on ebay http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/gnx-fortunate-547/224807-anyone-need-gnx-turbo-shield.html

No where in his auction did it say it was an original.
Not that it realy matters anyway since the repro and original are identical except for the welds and construction witch are only visible if you take it off to look underneath.

Sounds to me like someone is just pissed they did not put theirs on ebay first:biggrin:

 

[MENTL231]

Youre full of it!!!

Ive got a repro new in the box,why would I need yours

I asked you for a picture because I thought it was a repro....which we know it is or youd have taken a picture!!!!!!!!!!

I feel sorry for the dumb bastard that bought it thinking it was real.

Which for $1000,im positive they did!!!

HOW OLD IS THIS KID??

IF YOU WERE ASKING FOR PICTURES AND NOT LOOKING TO BUY THAT MAKES YOU A TYPICAL PICTURE COLLECTOR OR JUST A PLAIN OLD STROKER.. THE GUY DID NOT IN ANY WAY IMPLY THAT THIS WAS OR WASN'T ANY THING OTHER THAN WHAT HE DESCRIBED. I WAS INTERESTED IN THE COVER NOT FOR PICTURES BUT FOR OWNERSHIP. I WAS WATCHING THE AUCTION AND MADE SOME BIDS ON WHAT WAS DESCRIBED.. THERE WERE PLENTY OF PICTURES TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.. IF YOU WERE EDUCATED YOU CAN CLEARLY TELL BY THE PICS THAT ITS ONE OF THE JOE HARRINGTON ONES.

SORRY TO VENT BUT, I HAVE SOLD MANY THINGS OVER THE YEARS AND BOUGHT MANY THINGS.. YOU HAVE TO BE EDUCATED.. WHEN I WAS SELLING MY CAR A WHILE BACK, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE THE AMOUNT OF TIME WASTED SENDING PICS OF ALL PARTS OF THE CAR. AND NOTHING.. I SOLD IT TO A PERSON WHO HEARD ABOUT IT..AND CAME WITH CASH THE NEXT DAY.. AND BOUGHT IT.. I'M SURE LOTS OF YOU HAVE THIS HAPPEN.. JUST LOOK AT THE CLASSIFIED'S, I READ ABOUT DIFFERENT CARS ALL THE TIME FOR SALE AND THERE ARE COUNTLESS. PEOPLE ASKING FOR PICS AND HAVE NO INTENTION TO BUY.. ITS A SHAME.

LESSON TO BE LEARNED HERE........... DON'T BE A STROKER...!!!!!

AND PERSONALLY I THINK IT SOLD FOR A FAIR PRICE.. THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE ON THIS WEBSITE SELLING THE JOE HARRINGTON REPRO'S FOR ABOUT GRAND OR MORE.. IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY.. HE MADE LESS THAN 200 OF THEM AND NO LONGER PRODUCES THEM.. THEY ARE IN FACT MORE RARE THAN THE OTHERS. I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN THINKING OF SELLING THE ONE I OWN AND I HAVE HAD OFFERS OF A THOUSAND OR SO.. AN ORIGINAL IS WORTH ABOUT TWICE THAT IF YOU ASK ME!!

 

[MENTL231]

I think its funny that you bash this guy for selling a repro for $1000 when you were trying to sell your repro for $1250 without even providing pictures. If you read the 9th post in the link it says you will only take pictures to list it on ebay http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/gnx-fortunate-547/224807-anyone-need-gnx-turbo-shield.html

No where in his auction did it say it was an original.
Not that it realy matters anyway since the repro and original are identical except for the welds and construction witch are only visible if you take it off to look underneath.

Sounds to me like someone is just pissed they did not put theirs on ebay first:biggrin:

HAHHA BINGOOOOOOOO!!!!! THATS WHAT WE YANKEE'S CALL A STROKER!!!!

 

[broke1]

The original owner upgraded to a big turbo and didnt want to mess with it. So he modified a stock one.

SURE AS HELL SOUNDS LIKE HE BOUGHT IT FROM AN ORIG GNX OWNER WHO DIDNT WANT TO MODIFY HIS ORIG SHEILD TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why not just take pics of the bottom of it????

I might want top $$$ for mine but I stated it was a repro,not trying to stick it over on anyone selling FAKE parts like this guy.

Stroker??**** a dumb ass Yankee...

 

[turbo87regal]

I just posted the link above because I remembered seeing his post when he was trying to sell his shield. The reason I remembered the name broke1 is I could not believe the attitude he had to prospective buyers for his shield. I feel turbo-G-BODYs pain because I dealt with the same kind of crap when I sold one of my GNX dash's and a rear seat brace

 

[broke1]

I just posted the link above because I remembered seeing his post when he was trying to sell his shield. The reason I remembered the name broke1 is I could not believe the attitude he had to prospective buyers for his shield. I feel turbo-G-BODYs pain because I dealt with the same kind of crap when I sold one of my GNX dash's and a rear seat brace

Buick guys tire kick the **** out of stuff!!!!Simple as that....I wasnt tire kicking,I was tryin to let the guy know somone would prob be PO'd he misrep'd it.

Look at the attitude I have with the 27k mile GN drivline im selling,ive already had 2 offers to buy it sight unseen.Pics=tip top $$$ IMO

 

[MENTL231]

Buick guys tire kick the **** out of stuff!!!!Simple as that....I wasnt tire kicking,I was tryin to let the guy know somone would prob be PO'd he misrep'd it.

NO, YOU WERE STROKING HIM.. AN HE CLEARLY WAS NOT MISSREPRESENTING ANYTHING.. AND AS FOR HIM SAYING IT WAS ORIGINAL HE WAS TALKING AB0UT THE ORIGINAL OWNER OF THE SHIELD. NOT EVEN ONCE DID THE AUCTION MENTION AN AUTHENTIC GNX THAT THE SHIELD BELONGED TO OR CAME OFF.

Look at the attitude I have with the 27k mile GN drivline im selling,ive already had 2 offers to buy it sight unseen.Pics=tip top $$$ IMO

WOW, DO YOU CONTRADICT YOURSELF.

IF YOUR AWARE THAT PICS = TOP DOLLAR, WHY WOULD YOU NOT POST PICTURES OF THE ITEMS YOU ARE TRYING TO SELL?? ALOH!!

 

[MENTL231]

Guy is clearly a nut job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU HIT THE NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD!!

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/feedback/177401-dont-deal-rjc-aka-jason-cramer.html

 

[corymc]

who really cares they are not sweet enough for me to want to spend that kinda money on them. i think the seller should have stated that it was a repo if it is and thats about it but somebody bought it and if they are happy with what the spent and recieved then it souldnt be anybodies problem right?

 

[MENTL231]

who really cares they are not sweet enough for me to want to spend that kinda money on them. i think the seller should have stated that it was a repo if it is and thats about it but somebody bought it and if they are happy with what the spent and recieved then it souldnt be anybodies problem right?

CLEARLY THE SELLER WAS NOT AWARE OF WETHER IT WAS AN ORIGINAL OR A REPRO. FROM WHAT I LEARNED, ITS HARD TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE! SOMEONE NEEDS TO POST PICS OF THE UNDERSIDE OF AN ORIGINAL.

 

[broke1]

CLEARLY THE SELLER WAS NOT AWARE OF WETHER IT WAS AN ORIGINAL OR A REPRO. FROM WHAT I LEARNED, ITS HARD TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE! SOMEONE NEEDS TO POST PICS OF THE UNDERSIDE OF AN ORIGINAL.

Apparentlly you havent learned much if you dont know how to tell the diff between the 2.

The welds look sloppy on the repro's.

Why take up for this guy??Even if he didnt know wether it was a repro or real,he shouldve stated in his auction.

I think MENTL231 is really this guy....

 

[MENTL231]

Ps: Its Been Noted That Someone Went Out Of Thier Way To Contact The Purchaser And Misinform Them That The Turbo Cover Was "fake". Imo The Cover Is A Gnx Cover Thats Hard To Find. Maybe Not An Original But Yet Still One So Close Its Hard To Tell. I Guess The Lesson Learned Here Is If You Have Something For Sale You Need To First Ask Permission From A Member Of The Board Before You Put It On Ebay And Make Sure He's Not In The Mood To Play Interweb Rumor Spreader!! Especially When That Member Was Trying To Sell His "fake" Cover!!

I Think After This Thread And All The Information Listed Including Links, We All Now Know Who Not To Purchase Parts From.. And Who Not To Sell To!! This Guy Clearly Has A Problem!!