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It's experimental Matt. I don't think you'd like to pay for them though.:eek: Lots of R&D involved along with tons of research.:smile: If everything goes right it will keep more heat in the exhaust and drive the turbo really good.:biggrin:

nice work there Charlie... those are lookin good... what type of headers did you say those were again? AR? can you explain?
 
nice work there Charlie... those are lookin good... what type of headers did you say those were again? AR? can you explain?

First I'm gonna say that the bold print in your sig is insulting to Christians. Please remove it.:smile:

The header system is a stepped AR cone design and it hasn't been used on a turbo Buick before. I'm not gonna elaborate more than that for now until I get it done and tested. Sorry.:smile:
 
Well I had to read up on stepped headers, but that sounds cool, and makes sense. The cone idea sounds very innovative too. But how does the turbo affect the backpressure on them? I understand how they work on NA but from what I know the exhaust side PSI is higher than the intake side. So does all the exhast that exits the motor flow out evenly like a NA motor where there are pulses or does it get all jumbled up and just turn into a continuous flow of exhaust with no pulses.

If that makes any sense. :eek: Im sure they work I'm just not sure how the backpressure of the turbo affects them.
 
Well I had to read up on stepped headers, but that sounds cool, and makes sense.

DoneWG gave me the idea and after sending emails back and forth for a while it's the way I decided it should go. Keeps the temps in the header longer so it hits the turbo better.

The cone idea sounds very innovative too. But how does the turbo affect the backpressure on them? I understand how they work on NA but from what I know the exhaust side PSI is higher than the intake side. So does all the exhast that exits the motor flow out evenly like a NA motor where there are pulses or does it get all jumbled up and just turn into a continuous flow of exhaust with no pulses.

If that makes any sense. :eek: Im sure they work I'm just not sure how the backpressure of the turbo affects them.

Check the red in your post for answer #1.:biggrin:

As far as the cones it's an experiment and right now it looks good. Shouldn't restrict flow from the heads but should reduce some of the back flow issues that turbos have because of back pressure. Remember that I'm using a 204/214 cam so it's biased toward the exhaust. More lift and duration to the exhaust to spool the turbo.:smile:
 
The header system is a stepped AR cone design and it hasn't been used on a turbo Buick before. I'm not gonna elaborate more than that for now until I get it done and tested. Sorry.:smile:

you play a hard bargain, but I think you got it.. look cool, you could definetley make some coin off of it if you get it tested and proven... Id definetley be a customer. Were those aftermarket HA headers ever produced and put on sale? got someone who may like em.
 
you play a hard bargain, but I think you got it.. look cool, you could definetley make some coin off of it if you get it tested and proven... Id definetley be a customer. Were those aftermarket HA headers ever produced and put on sale? got someone who may like em.

Already sent the info to Brian and he's waiting to see how it does.:biggrin: I have a feeling it will set the HA guys on edge because of how it controls the temps in the headers and how well it should make the car move.:cool:
 
Already sent the info to Brian and he's waiting to see how it does.:biggrin: I have a feeling it will set the HA guys on edge because of how it controls the temps in the headers and how well it should make the car move.:cool:

Something told me that those headers would strike a nerve with the HA guys, weather or not its a good one or bad one is yet to be determined, the real prize are the 86 and 87s:smile:
 
Hey Charlie just wondering how you centered the brake baking plate to the axel before drilling the holes? Did the bottom holes line up?
 
Hey Charlie just wondering how you centered the brake baking plate to the axel before drilling the holes? Did the bottom holes line up?

Now on to more work. I spent most of the day in the shop doing the disc conversion on the rear and I can tell you one thing. Make sure you know how to sharpen a drill bit. I ruined 2 bits on the flange for the backing plate and had to sharpen another one so I could finish the job.:mad:

I started on the passengers side and I had to figure out what I wanted to do and how. I started by cleaning the rust off first, then painetd the area white so I could see the lines easier. I followed the directions that have been posted on line and added a little for mistakes. More than I needed in the long run but I wanted to make sure I didn't screw up. After the first cut I tried fitting the backing plate on and had to do some more trimming to the flange. The biggest issue is that GM made a ring around the Camaro flange that's not there on the Regal. You must do some measuring to get it centered. Not that big a deal but you have to be good at spacial referencing so you can get it centered.

Once I got the flange cut right I found that the two original bolts were just long enough to hold the backing plate on so I could mark the location for the upper bolts. Once I drilled though the two upper locations I put the bolts in and drilled the lowers. BINGO! This isn't that hard but it does take some thinking on how it needs to be done. Do your research on how to make it work and it will be fine.:biggrin:

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Theres alot to read on here Charlie. Ill be getting started now :oops:

It's kinda been in hiatus for the last almost 2 years but little things have been done. Headers are partially done, frame needs 2 areas about 6" long each need to be welded, and the motor mounts and tranny cross member needs to be modified. Then it's on to swapping the frames, which I'm not looking forward to.
 
Hey Charlie,

should be lots of good reading, things are looking up on your goals I am sure.

Later Kevin
my J&S will be here very soon and hope to have it installed for the weekend
 
Well I got a partial mock up on the motor mounts done today. The point of the sleeve is where the bushing goes, but the size of the plate will allow me to move the engine forward or backwards. No holes drilled yet since I've got some work to do on the positioning but here's what the new mounts are going to look like.;) They're asymmetrical so when I get everything in the frame if I need to swap sides I can. They may be shortened but until final mock up is done the extra room will help me get things in the right location.:D
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