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JDSfastGN
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good post Don.
I hear this all the time .. My trans is the balls.. I've had it for 5 YEARS without a problem !!! Then ya ask em how many miles or passes are on it ... CRICKETs
...Experience... ya mean the school of hard knox ! Experience costs a lot of $$$ and AGGRAVATION !! :biggrin:
Are you saying that some vendors here don't actually do their own building?
On another note,a stock GN trans freshened could probably make "A" 9sec pass without breaking.
1) I was referring to the 'faithful followers'. I'm sure most understand what I meant. I'm not sure how you got that from what I stated. Please feel free to elaborate.
2) I would imagine there would be some heavy betting in the stands on which pass the trans would be letting go. :tongue:
Like it or not,Don,you have jumped on the band wagon of people accusing someone of saying,in writing,that billet parts are unnecessary. They're not accusing someone of saying billet parts aren't needed in this situation or to prevent that from happening. They're accusing him of saying billet parts aren't needed ever/period.
Your statement,and I quote " The fellas that are saying that billet parts are unnecessary just haven't had enough experience yet. " shows that you have chosen to believe that some people have made the blanket statement that billet parts are unnecessary. You've chosen to believe this without proof of written or recorded words. You've simply followed the crowd without gathering the facts. Who hasn't been guilty of this before? You've also decided to believe that this person or persons haven't had enough experience yet. What facts do you base this on?
I can tell other people that you said this without fear of reprisal because I am able to quote your written words. Do you understand that it is only acceptable to accuse someone of saying something if you can prove it? We,here in this forum,have the luxury of all these written words to reference when needed,so I'm going to have to ask you again to please supply quotes or retract your statements.
PS. If speaking on someones behalf qualifies me as that someones marketing consultant wouldn't that make you,JDSfastGN,and jakeshoe Chris' marketing consultants?
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If I understand you right,it sounds like you've jumped to yet another conclusion that I don't do my own transmission work.
Why can't I get a quote?
I have seen at least 10 of these cracked OD planets in different cars over the last couple years. Only 2 actually totally failed. None had billet inputs and most werent faster than 12 sec quarter. A couple had the 3-4 accum blocked which really sets that splined area up for failure. A couple were just slightly above stock calibration and most likely saw some locked up WOT shifts. I look at them with a magnifier to check for cracking if i dont replace them with billet parts.
Don this a a good post. Ill clarify my stance on billet parts like Otto did in his posts. I use billet where and when its needed. Ill use it when its not needed if the customer wants it. If the engine is nearly stock and will not likely go faster than 11.50 or be locked up and see WOT shifts then i dont see the need for billet parts. It may be insurance in a few of those cases where the owner modifies the engine further than they said they would but in reality most wont and the added $ are a waste. When the car is 10 sec capable, full weight car and is calibrated to have good clutch life then a billet forward shaft, OD planet and ring gear should imo be highly considered. Inputs and outputs should be considered for mid 9 sec trans brake applications where there is a lot of traction. Not too many will ever fall into that category.
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Nail on the head! I like the clutch life point you mentioned.
Because I don't have time to waste to go back through hundreds of posts and try and find something that may have been edited out.
I have 3 weeks of transmissions scheduled out as of today working 6 and 7 days a week 12 hrs a day.
"I" will select how I spend my spare time.
It's no secret Chris and I have worked together in the past, I've also worked with Lonnie at Extreme Automatics and sold parts to many of the other builders on this forum. Brian Hofer, etc.
I've sent work to almost every vendor on this forum at some point because iw as too busy, or felt the customer would be better served by a local vendor, etc.
Myself, Chris, Lonnie, Don, Brian and others are competitors, so it's a stretch to say I or anyone else is a marketing consultant for any one vendor.
I have used CK billet parts on many occasions since Chris has pretty much been the only real manufacturer of these parts for the last few years until recently.
jakeshoe,you don't need to defend your integrity or ability. If I where a betting man I would bet that you build a good trans and care for and take good care of your customers.
This thread was started to show how wrong a statement by someone was. So far we don't have a quote even with all these written words. The statement was never made. When we make public statements or side with those who do,we need to make sure the statements are true beforehand. It's not a good idea to speak first and then look for evidence. If we quote first we don't have to waste time looking later. We're arguing about an opinion that was never stated.
When you say calibrated to have good clutch life,do you mean dual fed?
If you read my posts more carefully, you will see that I stated that I have been left with a certain impression after reading through threads in the past. If anyone would like to straighten me out on what they believe about the need for billet parts, if they think I was referring to them, then they're free to do so here and now. If no one made the silly statement that no billet parts are needed, and I've just let my imagination run wild on this one, then no one has anything to worry about, and you're really defending no one. Right?
On your PS. Aren't there more than just one person making billet parts for the 200-4R? Did you ever witness me post in favor of one manufacturer over another? Please provide proof before you make such blanket statements. Feel free to retract your question if you now feel you have no basis for stating it.
It seems you've jumped to the conclusion that I was referring to you, specifically.
Again, please read my posts more carefully.
Sometimes but not always. Dual feeding isnt always required. I only have 2 calibrations i use.
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TBPT Basic plus – rated for 3600lbs vehicle @10.20 E.T
This Transmission build has gone in the high 9’s since 1993. Its reliability is proven and the street characteristics are outstanding as with all our builds. Due to the age of Billet hypnosis, it has been retired by conventional thinking. It is still available but I now recommend a “Standard” or “Pro” re-build that offers upgraded and/or billet parts.
I would like to apologize as my website and New Decade campaign should have been done by now, but my father has pancreatic cancer, so my non-work focus is spending time with him, so the production of web related material has been slow, but I will have a release date ASAP.
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TBPT Basic plus – rated for 3600lbs vehicle @10.20 E.T
This Transmission build has gone in the high 9’s since 1993. Its reliability is proven and the street characteristics are outstanding as with all our builds. Due to the age of Billet hypnosis, it has been retired by conventional thinking. It is still available but I now recommend a “Standard” or “Pro” re-build that offers upgraded and/or billet parts.
I would like to apologize as my website and New Decade campaign should have been done by now, but my father has pancreatic cancer, so my non-work focus is spending time with him, so the production of web related material has been slow, but I will have a release date ASAP.
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TTYPE6,You want me to quote and you still havent answered why you voted for Dave in the who built your trans poll and he didnt build you a trans?Youve got your quote ,and as far as any statements he made to me about the parts ,I dont carry around a tape recorder.He also stated all of the guys on the forum building these transmissions are amatuers.Wrong statement to make,there are a whole crew of bright people here who dont just know how to build 2004rs and who make this area their lives work.This is not a bunch of people who just came along,sorry.A goldmine of trans info is on this forum ,probably more than anywhere else.I dont come on here to get involved in a soap opera,but their certainly are those who enjoy this type of girlie ****.If you want to talk nonsense go get a milkcrate and stand on top of it in the middle of times square and blow your lungs out,and if you like to listen to nonsense and are not motivated enough to leave the house and listen to the guy on the milkcrate ,turn on your tv to the soap network and make yourself smile.
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