Hey cheap paint thread

[Slow91z]

Hey guys I just posted a thread in the show car section but I was afraid that it wouldn't get much play there so here the link

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/show-car-restoration-body-repair/240220-cheap-paint.html

 

[Junior Samples]

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/general-turbo-buick-tech/240168-single-stage-painting.html

Guy was asking about single stage..the duplicolor your refering to in link is Laquer which is what i learned on..very forgiving, you can spray one panel at a time, but takes about 20 coats to cover good, hand rubbing will make it really shine.
but if you've never painted before and want to try it then have at it,... best stuff to learn on and you dont need a respirator so breathe deep the gathering gloom..lol watch lights fade from every room.

Myself I love laquer in fact when I see a bum walking down the street i say to myself,
quote "he was once a good laquer man" end quote

but do i use it anymore?..nope i went back to sniffin testors glue

 

[Slow91z]

Duplicolor is a enamel.

No offense, but most of your post I did not understand.

 

[Junior Samples]

not the link you provided bud..its premixed laquer based

Paint Shop Finish System gives you everything you need to create a high-quality DIY finish – primer, color and clear. It’s a high-quality lacquer system designed for automotive and motorcycle applications. Paint Shop is easy to apply, dries quickly and can be buffed to a brilliant smooth finish. Paint Shop is a ready-to-spray system, so no mixing or reducing is required. And with no re-coat window, additional coats can be applied at anytime.

and ive been speeling laquer wrong...most have been the fumes

 

[Slow91z]

Good call...I musta been looking at something else.

So how much paint does it usually take to cover a car??

 

[Junior Samples]

ok white 61 has over 25 coats of lacquer...(spelled right this time)
hand rubbed and you can shave in the reflection

although crappy pic

So i cant give you a good estimate on how much it will take.. how much do you want to put on? how much painting have you done in the past..gimmie honest from 1 to 10...id like to say man go with 2 stage Uthane but for those who have never done it...forget it, learn on lacquer

how much is that kit? i didnt see price

work with me here i'll try and help as best i can

addition: i really lost count as too how many coats i put on that thing anywhere from 22 to 26 anyway

 

[Slow91z]

Never painted anything with a gun ever...Also not looking for a show car, this car was in primer for 4 years and last year a buddy of mine had a case of spray paint and we went to town.

Now it's a weird grey (the pigment was totally screwed up cuz the paint was OLD

I don't care how many coats as long as it's enough, I might throw on some extra clear so I can get a buddy to wet sand and buff it.

It's 20 bux a quart for each "stage" (Primer, Color, Clear)...I'm probably not going to spray it myself the bud that sprayed it with spray bombs wants to try a paint job out of a gun so I'm gonna see if he'll spray it for me.

 

[Junior Samples]

car painting tips | steps on how to paint a car | paint spray gun | clear coat | paint mixing\

try that link

 

[Slow91z]

Also any info you can give me on a cheap gun, and I guess I will need some sort of dryer for the air compressor...Is there a dryer out there that's cheap but will work for 1 paint job, since that's obviously all I'll need it for.

 

[Junior Samples]

harborfright...go to first link i provided for thread in other section on single stage...scroll down to turbofishs post and follow his link, help setting up your new gun to get spray pattern

 

[Pablo]

Have you looked into a roller job? I think they are hard to beat. I am currently doing it on my car.

Heres a link to a site that has some info on a roller job. There is a huge post on the moparts forum that started this all. There are also numerous other sites documenting the process.

Home

 

[Slow91z]

Have you looked into a roller job? I think they are hard to beat. I am currently doing it on my car.

Heres a link to a site that has some info on a roller job. There is a huge post on the moparts forum that started this all. There are also numerous other sites documenting the process.

Home

I've looked at into it some...I'm not real sure I want to go that way...If this kit ends up working out and being cheap enough I'm going to go this way, if it ends up costing more then I think it will I may rethink the roller job.

 

[Junior Samples]

Have you looked into a roller job? I think they are hard to beat. I am currently doing it on my car.

Heres a link to a site that has some info on a roller job. There is a huge post on the moparts forum that started this all. There are also numerous other sites documenting the process.

Home

Ya know Pablo... i stepped away for awhile and while watching some TV i thought..hey what about the RustoleumRoller, it would be perfect. it lays down nice and minimal prep, he said he wasnt lookin for show stopper and for 100 bucks he can lay it on..

but ya know Pablo after i went to link and read..the guy missed a huge part and that is to prep your roller skin first...get it wet, let it dry then detape it by rolling it on stretched out tape held by your foot, just roll it up and down leg to pull any fuzzys off the skin..blue tape

 

[Pablo]

I have not seen anyone mention this before in all of the roller threads out there.

What does this do?
Is this for the ultra high density foam rollers the method suggests?
Wet with what? paint?

please elaborate, I am curious. I am very very close to rolling my primer coats.

 

[Junior Samples]

oh my bad, i didnt see the part about the foam rollers..but i did see the part about the bubbles and thats what you get with the foam rollers..bubbles and lots of em.

if you were to use a 1/8 nap mohair roller you wouldnt get the bubbles but you would want to still prime it with water..let dry and detape it..just two quick runs on some tape cuz its fine nap
and that just removes any loose fibers from the nap

 

[Pablo]

oh my bad, i didnt see the part about the foam rollers..but i did see the part about the bubbles and thats what you get with the foam rollers..bubbles and lots of em.

if you were to use a 1/8 nap mohair roller you wouldnt get the bubbles but you would want to still prime it with water..let dry and detape it..just two quick runs on some tape cuz its fine nap
and that just removes any loose fibers from the nap

Hmm that sounds interesting. I have seen Mohair rollers mentioned a time or two but not much else. I might have to try that. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Junior Samples]

hey no prob, cant wait to see finish product

quick note on mohair skins, try and find the one that doesnt have the diag lines running down it where they installed it onto the roller but if thats what you wind up with then you crosshatch your roll pattern to get rid of any lines it may leave

 

[Roc87]

I sprayed my GN about 6 years ago with a cheap gun and single stage acrylic enamel. Back then all paint material was about $150, that was a gallon of color and all necessary stuff to mix it with. I was able to get two coats on the car minus bumpers, but just one coat on the mirrors and GNX flares. I colorsanded/buffed it about a week after and it was much better than the "average driver" quality. I think it was Dupont Centauri Super Jet Black. Sprayed easy, great coverage and has held up pretty well. I just wish I would have spent more on the body work underneath my paint. It's at the body shop having the shaved handles repaired the "correct" way, swapping the cowl for the stock steel hood which has been stripped to metal and painted with PPG base/clear and getting my front bumper shaved. I don't have any experience with the duplicolor system, but I'd spend just a little more to use acrylic enamel. I originally went with the acrylic enamel just because I thought that black looked more black in single stage than base/clear. It will take you at minimum 1.5 gallons of sprayable material to shoot a regal, and just to be safe, I'd have 2 gallons, that way you will have some extra material to sand down in the colorsand/buff stage. The el camino I shot with a Sata Jet gun, in base clear. I used about .75 gallon of the sunset orange metallic base on all the jambs and on the outside, and about 3/8 gallon of argent on the outside, but all that is mixed with reducer. There is less than .75 gallons of clear on it. Good luck with it and let us know what you decide and how it turns out!

 

[John Larkin]

Take a ride by a bodyshop. See if they have a throwaway decklid or hood they'd let you have. Then you can practice on it to see if you feel up to the challenge.

 

[Project TNX]

You'd be better off taking your trim off, doing some prep work and have MAACO paint it.

To do it yourself, single stage, will still run you $300-500 in supplies. If you have never painted a car, or used a gun then it will end badly, I've been there.

Do the prep, and MAACO can give you a decent single stage for the same price or a 2 stage job for ~$1,500 and you'll be a lot happier.

It's a myth that single stage is easier, it's not, people are just intimidated by clear coat. Granted a non metallic single stage isn't the most difficult job in the world, but a metallic single stage is a royal pain in the ass for a beginner. I find 2 stage painting easier, just more time consuming.

It's also next to impossible for the garage painter to create a dust free environment, it takes a ton of plastic and a few fans to create a side draft paint booth. Trust me, just spend $500.00 with MAACO if your just looking for a decent paint job.