Is this really happening down there?

[Gary Wells]

I always keep my car 100% legit.

 

[forcedfedv6]

I'm a "cop" on this board Remember operation of a vehicle on the public roadways is a priviledge not a right.

It should be my damn right since my Freaking taxes are paying for the roads and Police officers that patrol them..

 

[turbolou]

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It should be my right since my damn taxes are paying for the roads and Police officers that patrol them..

When I was growing up things were different. Less people more space, cars weren't as fast & we weren't as likely to have a tragedy. Not so now it's a serious crime to street race. When I see some of these`ricers doing all their xtream fast & furious reckless driving & putting everyone in their way at risk I cringe.These are the guys that give legitimate enthusiast a bad name & force those laws on us.It gives the cops no choice but to use`every enforcement tool available to control this. So put the blame where it belongs.

 

[DaveLC2]

In the Bar97 smog book an open element air filter is considered a Class A or Class 1 replacement part and is 100% smog legal providing everything is connected but yet if you get asked to pop the hood and a peace officer sees something as simple as an open element air filter they assume it is for street racing and issue you a Ref Cite. Total bullsh@%! I haven't had any problems and I do have many friends in law enforcement.

 

[SPOOLFOOL2]

We probably don't have to worry about this happening at the Donut Derelicts car show. As many of the fastest and most modified cars are owned by cops. That, and about the only racing going on, is bench racing :wink: .

Just a side note: Can a officer Make you open your hood?
I ask this because yesterday I drove past a area in Costa Mesa where a CA. Highway patrol was diverting select vehicles to a mobile emissions dyno. I got to thinking. My work truck is a 74 chevy (smog exempt) PU truck. It has aftermarket Edelbrock EFI, HEI dist, 200r4 trans, Etc. It now gets 30% better gas milage and runs much cleaner. If I would have gotten flagged on to this treadmill, and opened my hood, would I be forced into putting the Quadrajet carb, points dist, and 350 trans back in, and all in the name of "CLEANER AIR"?

My thought is, if I can make my car (or truck) burn "clean", then it shouldn't be any of their F*****G business how I do it.

Back under my rock...

 

[turbolou]

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We probably don't have to worry about this happening at the Donut Derelicts car show. As many of the fastest and most modified cars are owned by cops. That, and about the only racing going on, is bench racing :wink: .

Just a side note: Can a officer Make you open your hood?
I ask this because yesterday I drove past a area in Costa Mesa where a CA. Highway patrol was diverting select vehicles to a mobile emissions dyno. I got to thinking. My work truck is a 74 chevy (smog exempt) PU truck. It has aftermarket Edelbrock EFI, HEI dist, 200r4 trans, Etc. It now gets 30% better gas milage and runs much cleaner. If I would have gotten flagged on to this treadmill, and opened my hood, would I be forced into putting the Quadrajet carb, points dist, and 350 trans back in, and all in the name of "CLEANER AIR"?

My thought is, if I can make my car (or truck) burn "clean", then it shouldn't be any of their F*****G business how I do it.

Back under my rock...

Technically All vehicles from the inception of the smog laws dating back to the early sixty's are not exempt from the law.It only implies that vehicles older than 1974 are exempt from bi annual inspections. What equipment came on the vehicle must stay on it. Should the equipment be no longer available every attempt must be made to maintain it through approved aftermarket replacement. the only thing that saves the older vehicles from being targeted is the impossibility of enforcement & the pressure that was brought upon Sacramento by SEMA & car enthusiasts & the aftermarket industry. Being a smog tech & running a station for many years I know the laws & am careful not to get my customers in trouble & save them from themselves by not deviating too far from legal & the ability to pass smog when needed. These Buick's run the best when they burn clean & efficient. Our cars are unaffected
by tests that are conducted at low levels with no boost. That's the beauty of forced induction. It's only power on demand. ported heads , mild cam profiles
stock resembling turbos such as the TA series are undetectable.It's easily possible to have over 450 h.p. run low 11's & still be within the law.

 

[forcedfedv6]

When I was growing up things were different. Less people more space, cars weren't as fast & we weren't as likely to have a tragedy. Not so now it's a serious crime to street race. When I see some of these`ricers doing all their xtream fast & furious reckless driving & putting everyone in their way at risk I cringe.These are the guys that give legitimate enthusiast a bad name & force those laws on us.It gives the cops no choice but to use`every enforcement tool available to control this. So put the blame where it belongs.

You are right turbolou, it starts with us buying GN's and then paying mechanics to modify them, speed is addictive, so i guess the blame is on us to begin with, then the mechanics that live to Modify them, then,then, then, see it never ends, So, with all the un-answered questions I wonder who is really to blame.. So lets do this and Lay the blame down on the DAMN RICERSSSS. :biggrin: thank god MY GN is staying all stock with the exception of a K&N filter and a chip to boot.

 

[Gary Wells]

You just got to love those roadside intrusive smog tests. I really wish sometimes that I had the money to just retire & move to a state that is less restrictive on firearms & vehicles.

 

[#1HotRod]

I really wish sometimes that I had the money to just retire & move to a state that is less restrictive.

For the literate type, it is "1984".

Ya Wells, Ca. is such a big beautiful place full of interesting people.
But...something about it makes a lot of us want to leave, with sadness,
but leave anyway for peace of mind (& less taxes).

 

[forcedfedv6]

You just got to love those roadside intrusive smog tests. I really wish sometimes that I had the money to just retire & move to a state that is less restrictive on firearms & vehicles.

I am with you MR:Wells, just last night i was thinking of a way to carry my hand Gun in the car loaded and ready for action without getting in trouble, times are rough and carjackers will be out on the prowl to either rob you or steal your car so keep your eyes open.

 

[Mark E.]

From yesterdays San Jose, Ca Mercury news police blotter:

El Camino Real/ Lawrence Expressway. March 30. Police passed out
fliers on trespassing laws, made more than 140 car stops and cited
more than 75 drivers at a recurrent gathering of about 500 cars and
racing enthusiasts.

March 30 was a Sunday, so I guess it was after midnight.

Mark E.

 

[Gary Wells]

For the literate type, it is "1984".

Ya Wells, Ca. is such a big beautiful place full of interesting people.
But...something about it makes a lot of us want to leave, with sadness,
but leave anyway for peace of mind (& less taxes).

Or George Orwell's "Animal Farm" with people. Take your pick.

 

[Racer X]

I wonder if the shopping mall management called the cops because they got tired of the loitering and maybe customers were complaning?

If not and the cops simply targeted them, then we are just one step closer to that grand socialist state most of the people here are clamoring for.

This also leaves me wondering how many lives were at risk while they were detaining these 'criminals'?