lets discuss 200r4 trans brakes

[fastblackracing]

I am thinking about getting a trans brake and would like to hear your opinions and pros + cons of the different ones we have available. Thanks in advance.

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

TTT

 

[achalmersman]

Subscribed. Interested in hearing the pros talk please....

 

[clusolynn]

The Stage Right Transbrake is a manual hydraulic brake great for the enthusiast that is in-expensive, at $150.00, and easy to install. https://stagerighttransmissions.com/assets/pdf/srtTransbrakeInstructions.pdf But, for serious racing, the EA electric transbrake will have faster, more consistent release times. A little pricier around $400.00. Keep in mind, the serious racer will also need supporting components as well, such as boost controller etc, so the price difference between the two may vary and is significant. There is a write up on the EA2004R electric brake in the vendors section and, the complete installation instructions can be found at http://extremeautomatics.com/assets/pdf/2004R_54E10.1.pdf

 

[dank GN]

I have used the EA electric brake and never had any issues with it. I've launched at 20lbs with no issues . Plus Lonnie has some of the best customer service. Plus the whole slap stick kinda sucks .life is better with a button in your hand and boost in your motor

 

[chris718]

I have used the EA electric brake and never had any issues with it. I've launched at 20lbs with no issues . Plus Lonnie has some of the best customer service. Plus the whole slap stick kinda sucks .life is better with a button in your hand and boost in your motor

 

[chris718]

 

[chris718]

I am thinking about getting a trans brake and would like to hear your opinions and pros + cons of the different ones we have available. Thanks in advance.

This ihttp://www.ckperformance.com/View/2004R-STAGERITE-TRANSBRAKE-KITs the most cost effective way to do it .

 

[TURBOPOWERED68]

I want a brake real bad

 

[czimpel]

Chris, is that seriously $50 to add a trans brake?

 

[fastblackracing]

I want a brake real bad

I never thought I would want one but I have exploded on seperate occasions 2 brake drums one of which trashed every thing.....the backing plate,the shoes and hardware tore up the inside of the rim and punctured a brand new M/T ET street slick. So some how I am able to generate enough pressure on the power master to cause carnage. On a friends car with steel drums I folded the brake shoes and tore everything up inside the drum and backing plate. Had to take every thing out at the track and drive the car home with almost no brakes 80 plus miles. So my next 2 trans ......................................[ I keep a spare on hand ] will have trans brakes to make life easier on the braking system.

 

[fastblackracing]

This ihttp://www.ckperformance.com/View/2004R-STAGERITE-TRANSBRAKE-KITs the most cost effective way to do it .

Chris do you feel the electric brake has any advantage over the manual version if cost is not an issue? And thanks for taking time to reply.

 

[fastblackracing]

The Stage Right Transbrake is a manual hydraulic brake great for the enthusiast that is in-expensive, at $150.00, and easy to install. https://stagerighttransmissions.com/assets/pdf/srtTransbrakeInstructions.pdf But, for serious racing, the EA electric transbrake will have faster, more consistent release times. A little pricier around $400.00. Keep in mind, the serious racer will also need supporting components as well, such as boost controller etc, so the price difference between the two may vary and is significant. There is a write up on the EA2004R electric brake in the vendors section and, the complete installation instructions can be found at http://extremeautomatics.com/assets/pdf/2004R_54E10.1.pdf

Clusolynn, Thanks for taking time to reply and link the info that helps a bunch......... Which one do you run and If I understand with the electric brake you lose the 1-2 and 3-4 shift accumulators? So other measures may be needed to not destroy shift quality?.......And one last question I did not read if it is possible to use the electric brake in the L2 or drive positions as well as L1?

 

[chris718]

Chris, is that seriously $50 to add a trans brake?

Yes sir.

 

[chris718]

Chris do you feel the electric brake has any advantage over the manual version if cost is not an issue? And thanks for taking time to reply.

The electric brake has a faster release.

 

[fastblackracing]

The electric brake has a faster release.

chris it looks to me that using the electric brake you lose the function of the 2nd and 4th gear accumulators is this what I am seeing? And if that is the case are there measures that can be used so shift quality is not overly harsh?

 

[chris718]

That is a good observation however most cars that require a brake benefit from no accumulator.

 

[nightrain]

I've had the CK brake for years and it's a great, cheap way to get a transbrake setup. I installed it myself. Very simple. I launch at 22lbs and off the Tbrake it's like getting hit from behind by a freight train. Yes, there's lots of monkey motion while staging after the burnout as I use a ratchet shifter. Driving out of the water box, pre-stage, then ratchet all the way down to 1st (Tbrake gear), then back to 2nd to final stage, then quickly back down to 1st, then hit the gas and hope enough boost builds to cut a less than embarrassing light. But, when you slam that ratchet shifter to 2nd, woo, hoo! Front tires lift and away you go. I could never launch that way on the brakes.

Now the cons:
You don't have a rolling first gear anymore. I have a laminated sign on the dash to warn of not shifting into first while rolling for when I really get senile.
I just read some new NHRA tech rules that appear to outlaw manual Tbrakes. I'm not sure if my track will enforce that on grudge night for all cars, but my sign may have to go away...

I was thinking of switching to an ETbrake because I like that button thing, too. Either way, I'm sold on the Tbrake idea.

 

[fastblackracing]

I've had the CK brake for years and it's a great, cheap way to get a transbrake setup. I installed it myself. Very simple. I launch at 22lbs and off the Tbrake it's like getting hit from behind by a freight train. Yes, there's lots of monkey motion while staging after the burnout as I use a ratchet shifter. Driving out of the water box, pre-stage, then ratchet all the way down to 1st (Tbrake gear), then back to 2nd to final stage, then quickly back down to 1st, then hit the gas and hope enough boost builds to cut a less than embarrassing light. But, when you slam that ratchet shifter to 2nd, woo, hoo! Front tires lift and away you go. I could never launch that way on the brakes.

Now the cons:
You don't have a rolling first gear anymore. I have a laminated sign on the dash to warn of not shifting into first while rolling for when I really get senile.
I just read some new NHRA tech rules that appear to outlaw manual Tbrakes. I'm not sure if my track will enforce that on grudge night for all cars, but my sign may have to go away...

I was thinking of switching to an ETbrake because I like that button thing, too. Either way, I'm sold on the Tbrake idea.

That is a good observation however most cars that require a brake benefit from no accumulator.

Thanks for the input guys I am going with the ck manual brake and I also ordered the rest of the billet stuff I needed from CK on wednesday. The car wont see that much track time and I like to have a little bit of the accumulators left in the trans to help with the shifts. With the old set up I could do 1.4xx 60' most of the time, we will see how the new set up does and then try the T brake and compare.

 

[Mr.Spool]

Had to take every thing out at the track and drive the car home with almost no brakes 80 plus miles. So my next 2 trans ......................................[ I keep a spare on hand ] will have trans brakes to make life easier on the braking system.

at least you made it home, when the trans brakes you will need a tow and will cost a lot more to fix.the 200 and a transbrake to me is unnecessary trouble as the car on the footbrake can go just as fast without heating up the trans.i converted to disk setup when i put the 9 inch in and couldn't be happier,duel piston setup for the devoted.