Mease DP

[JadeMonkeyStang]

Fixed

It'll work now, I just made a stupid html error.

www.eden.rutgers.edu/~dcraft/mease.html

Dustin

 

[BADDGUY6]

Re: Fixed

Originally posted by JadeMonkeyStang
It'll work now, I just made a stupid html error.

www.eden.rutgers.edu/~dcraft/mease.html

Dustin

Hey Dustin,
Nice Pics.Is that a polished pipe? Or standard finish?
Guy

 

[DarkForce]

I keep sending messages to Keith about an IC he supposedly mailed. Maybe some of you can get through to him for me. None of the messages I've sent to him have bounced back so they are being received somewhere out there. Relay the following to him so that he can give me an update of what he's up to.

Crono of events:
3/26 Keith said the IC would go out 3/4 days after receipt of payment
3/27 Payment mailed
4/2 Keith said payment had been received "the other day"
4/12 I asked where the IC was
4/12 Keith said UPS picked it up "today"
4/15 I asked when the IC would arrive -
Received no reply
4/22 I asked again when the IC would arrive and what the tracking # was -
Received no reply
4/25 I asked again when the IC would arrive -
Received no reply
5/2 I asked again when the IC would arrive -
5/3 Still no reply ???

 

[turbolc2]

My Downpipe

Keith has gone out of his way for those in the "GP" & myself personally.I was treated professionally & with respect.I'm sure that once our car's performance/appearance has been improved with the new downpipe that we'll find other reasons to complain about Keith's operation.

 

[GNX423]

The pipe in the pics is a standard pipe that i polished my self with a lil fine sand paper, the polished one actually looks even better. Sorry the pics are so large, i dident realize they were that big when i sent them.


Mike

 

[gato]

my deposit #

I'm was sick of waiting too. If anyone wants to buy my DP deposit, they can have my number. Please PM me for details. I bought a Houston DP that was in stock & on my car in less than 5 days from the time I ordered it. Cost me a whole $125 more in SS.

Actually was not happy with the quality of the pipe when I saw it either, my friend pete got his & I didn't like the flange that bolted to the turbo. Just my opinion, I'm sure it works fine.

The way I see it, the $125 extra goes towards this: Customer service, someone who actually answers the phone. No stories, etc...

Funny how some of these guys come & go. Never have good service. You call them 5 times a week & always something different. UPS lost the package. Waiting for material.

I've been in manufacturing for 18 years. Used UPS for 10+. We ship over 50 packages a week. Off the top of my head, I can only remember 1 or 2 that have ever been lost & were found & delivered within days. When customers call, we don't say "I think it was shipped" We either know, or check.

We all wanted to save money & looked what happened.

I wonder what price Terry Houston would have given us on 75 down pipes. Anyone care to guess?

 

[Randy Greenoe]

I guess $439

 

[motorhead]

Re: my deposit #

Originally posted by gato
I wonder what price Terry Houston would have given us on 75 down pipes. Anyone care to guess?

The same price you paid. He doesn't do GPs.

The difference for me was the extra $125... that is about 1/2 weeks wages for some people, like me. So here I sit waiting patiently.

I am quite sure that you can resell your KMDP when it does show up.

KM does have another side of his business to run, things are tough when you are a small company and things go wrong, understand this. He has my support.

 

[hot6-231]

Originally posted by Bobtempest
Glad I have a Terry Houston downpipe, I have not never had a problem. It is not a copy and is has proven bushings on the puck.
Terry will always back his products.

Yea........He should for the huge amount he charges for his dp........$400+ for a medal pipe is outragous, and NO vendor is allowed to discount!!!

 

[petesgn]

Deposit #

Gato YOU HAVE MAIL.

 

[Rob_85Ttype]

I don't think we have sacrificed quality in workmanship or materials in the Mease downpipe design. When I first received my Mease downpipe, I was pumped about the level of quality. I still am. I haven't installed my DP yet, but I really don't anticipate any problems with it. Further icing on the cake for me is that the mounting plate to the turbo which holds the integral puck is stainless. I don't think the TH offers that (maybe I'm wrong). The welds are very nice on this unit as well as the finish.

Maybe I'm a little "off base" with the predominent thinking here, but I can see nothing wrong with a little open competition to keep costs in line. Isn't that the whole premice that capitalism is based upon? I embraced the opportunity to save money and to help jump start a potential new supplier to our hobby. I realized that came with some risks, like will the thing fit? But after I spoke with Keith the first time to set up the GP, I determined that he knew how to manufacture a downpipe, and was sold. Keith is very talented, based on the products that I've seen, and I'd like to have more of them. By only embracing the "preferred" suppliers of a component, aren't we engaging in a form of protectionism? Throughout history, protectionism has always driven the price up, and over time, things like quality and supply can become an issue. One more thought, is the idea of a 3" DP with integral puck a patented design?

We were able to get the great price on this GP due to volume sold. The pipe will normally sell for more than we paid, but still less than others that are available to us.

I'm not trying to get in a pi$$ing dual with anyone, I've just been quiet on this throughout the debates, and thought I'd fire one off.

Thanks,

 

[tom h]

I agree with Rob that a little open competition can be a good thing, overall.

Take for example, Intel vs AMD microprocessors. AMD has never gotten large market share (under 20% I think), but they occasionally scared & pushed Intel to produce better performing & lower cost products. BOTH AMD & Intel produce better products than if they did not have each others' competition.

 

[TurboTA3.8]

thdp flange is stainless

george

 

[wilkinshc]

I have the Mease downpipe on my car, no sticking puck, fit was good, instructions were good, quality of materials excellent. My car spools a lot better (night and day). I am one that likes it yesterday and was hard to wait for it but there is nothing wrong with the pipe. Couple of local guys have the TH pipe and it is a nice pipe but I don't see any difference except for the price. Just my observations. Those of you who are still waiting I symphathize but you will be happy with it when it comes. I was number 17 and I recieved it about 2wks ago. It was just the plain Jane pipe and test pipe.

Chuck

 

[gn1220]

Keith sent me an e-mail and said my pipe went out weeks ago but UPS has no record of it. He said it was insured and he will send a new one in the next shipment. I hope it gets here soon so I can install it and show it off on the Power Tour.

 

[TurboRegal84]

Keith did not take a TH downpipe, and make a copy of it.....He actually started the whole thing when him and GNVAIR got bored, and after picking their brains (and nose's too) they decided to try a cut, and weld Downpipe.

A few hours later the "First" Downpipe was made from a series of cut and welds.

The pipe was made so it would clear the Heater Box, Upper Control arm, and header using the good old method of trial and error.

After the pipe was on GNVAIR's car for a while he loved it, and Keith posted on here about it....and thats how it came to life....no copying, no stealing ideas...nothing like that.

Heck..if you don't believe me...go to his shop, and you will see the orig. cut and weld downpipe!

What is so different about the Mease Pipe?

It is hand made.
The Puck is HUGE!
There is a bushing that the Puck shaft rides on the inside of the Flange so that no carbon will get in there, and cause it to stick.
and lastly the radias of the Mease Downpipe is a bit larger then the TH one.

This downpipe is MILD to what Keith has coming up for stock location IC's.....he needs to get out more, because what he is coming up with is "BIG".....Keep your eyes open for another MPE crazy idea

 

[IrvJr]

How much is he paying you Herb?

Scott

 

[DarkForce]

Got in this morning and Keith had sent me an email Friday night letting me know he’d accidentally sent my IC to someone else but my order was in the mail - he also sent the tracking number and his phone number which was cool.

 

[SHRPTTA]

I ordered my pipe on the 28th Jan ..PAID IN FULL Feb 28(check cleared).........................STILL WAITING I told Keith i would be out of town untill the 10th of May, thats this friday.... if its not there i will do all my power to cancel my order and get my money back.

BTW I didnt get a discount cause I have a TTA. VERY NEAR $400

ANd THDP for a TTA is $550 WHAT BS!!!

Sorry, but 10-11 weeks!!!!!

I have many emails of keith telling me he would ship that week.

 

[5.0 THIS]

I got a downpipe from Mease performance about 5 to 6 months ago, and it fits great. I am not very experinced in the turbo buick world, but I thought he had great customer service. He answered all my questions, and was great to deal with. I would buy from him again.

Has anybody had bad service from Turbonetics. I sent them my deltagate for a re-build at the end of March and it seems they don't know what the heck is going on. I called them on April 10th to see what was taking so long and they told me they hadn't gotten it yet. Ran down to the post office to check to see if they received it and they had, April 1st. Called them back the next day and they told me that they found it and were working on it and that they would give me a call. After many calls they finaly decided to ship a deltagate to me today.

Chris