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Check out the "Met Jamie at BG" post in the "Hot Air" section. She ran 10.55 e.t. on E85 in a hot air car!
Conrad
 
Thanks Conrad for the props, it was really great to have met you and found someone interested in E85
 
Jamie and Karl,
Let's just say that you two have put "Hot Air" and "E85" on the TB map! You two have the right combination to "Get it Done". I congratulate both of you for not accepting the "normal" and forging ahead with innovative thinking, trial (and error) experimentation, and never ending persistence. It has taken time, money, and patience. Perhaps more TB owners will investigate E85 and it's wonderful properties....105 octane and a high latent heat of vaporization (i.e. chemical intercooler). On top of that, your old rag-tag car was saved from the crusher and is now a show winner. Did I mention that Jamie painted the car! As a mechanical engineer, I can really appreciate what you two have done! I still have my hot air engine...maybe some day I will.......

Perhaps Wolcott Racing (J&K) has carved out a nitch in the TB world.

Congrats to Jamie and Karl for a job well done. Anyone want to buy a nice big front mount intercooler? Oops, wrong forum!

Conrad
ps...anyone got a photo of Karl?
 
Here is Karl actually at a previous Nationals.
 

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Jamie and Karl,
Let's just say that you two have put "Hot Air" and "E85" on the TB map! You two have the right combination to "Get it Done". I congratulate both of you for not accepting the "normal" and forging ahead with innovative thinking, trial (and error) experimentation, and never ending persistence. It has taken time, money, and patience. Perhaps more TB owners will investigate E85 and it's wonderful properties....105 octane and a high latent heat of vaporization (i.e. chemical intercooler). On top of that, your old rag-tag car was saved from the crusher and is now a show winner. Did I mention that Jamie painted the car! As a mechanical engineer, I can really appreciate what you two have done! I still have my hot air engine...maybe some day I will.......

Perhaps Wolcott Racing (J&K) has carved out a nitch in the TB world.

Congrats to Jamie and Karl for a job well done. Anyone want to buy a nice big front mount intercooler? Oops, wrong forum!

Conrad
ps...anyone got a photo of Karl?

Thanks for all the encouragment and compliments at the Nationals you're top notch in the Buick Community.
 
The sad thing is E85 is not available everywhere so people can get access to it. For those looking just get a couple empty 55 gallon drums and come to michigan next spring and fill up, that will set up for awhile. I have friends that do this that are local so they have the same quality for a while (comes from the same batch per say) Luckily both stations local test as E85 or E83 and I have a lot of friends who have made the switch.
 
Wow, great job. I checked out all the custom parts you had made and it's very impressive.

Curious if you've contemplated Alky to help add some more boost? ;)

A 2 or 3gph Preturbo will net 1psi of compressor efficiency and a 15gph Post will really get that 25psi and maybe 280 degrees down closer to mid 150's maybe.

FWIW, two M15 nozzles took out 30% in my E85 injectors, I've got 80's that respond like their on gas now. :cool:
 
I actually saw a difference with an Anderson kit I was running but we decided straight E85 was the way to go. I'm still working on trying to cool the charge on my set up.
 
Ran a new personal best at home town track

60 1.5094
330 4.3065
1/8 6.6737
mph 104.31
1000 8.7293
mph 119.15
1/4 10.4878
mph 127.24

on a very rich tune but I'm still learning the tuning thing.
 
That 9.99 second e.t. is getting C-L-O-S-E-R! As the air gets cooler, the H.P. increases so who knows! Are there are a couple of 10th of low-hanging fruit in your 60' number? Congratulations!!!!
Conrad

GO HOT AIR!!!!!!
 
The sixty was off but considering the condition of the track I'll take it. I heard Milan is open for a couple more weekends but if it's too cold you don't get good traction either. Might just have to wait till spring.
 
Guys and Gals,
Jamie just found out that her hot air car is running WAY rich! Wonder what it will run with the correct air/fuel?
Conrad
 
If I can find some E85, I may bypass my intercooler and see what she will do. I may want my "Hot Air" tag back!
Conrad
 
If I can find some E85, I may bypass my intercooler and see what she will do. I may want my "Hot Air" tag back!
Conrad

lurk around on the modular mustangs forum in the e85/e98 section and you will see IC's being removed as a restriction and added weight -especially by the e98 guys ;) the fuel does plenty of charge cooling for them it appears
 
E85 and higher sounds like a great replacement for an intercooler. However where I live E85 is not ready available and even if it was I’m not sure I’d go to it 100%. The reason is my car is more street driven than strip and pulling up to the gas station almost twice as many times doesn’t have a great appeal to me. If there was a way to have E85 on demand, but use regular 93 octane for normal driving that’d fit the bill!

Vernon (Turbo1dr) has two sets of injectors, two fuel lines and two tanks on his Malibu hybrid. He can manually or automatically switch between 87 octane and 116 octane. If we could do something like that with regular gasoline and E85 that would incredible.
 
I'm not sure why you think you would be filling upt twice as many times, street driven I still maintain 18 mpg range, I really didn't lose any mpg that I can see. Of course I ran straight 110 race fuel before but still never had an issue with mpg. I know it says you will lose some mpg but only a mile or so not several..
 
I'm not sure why you think you would be filling upt twice as many times, street driven I still maintain 18 mpg range, I really didn't lose any mpg that I can see. Of course I ran straight 110 race fuel before but still never had an issue with mpg. I know it says you will lose some mpg but only a mile or so not several..

Interesting, for some reason I thought it took a lot more E85 than regular gasoline. I was getting around 20 MPG, so a 2 MPG drop isn't really any big deal.
 
I think it's one of those misconceptions people fall into, even you flex fuel vehicles only average about 2 mgp less on E85. One of those things you don't figure out until you use it.
 
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