moving on from my ATR liquid to air intercooler. I need advice please.

[nolanator]

Hey everyone. Like the title says I am moving to a new intercooler setup. I am about to install a Precision 6766, and this turbo is physically much larger that my T64E (.75 A/R vs. .60A/R)....so much so that when I mocked up the turbo this past weekend, the inlet for the intercooler was inside the outlet of the compressor. On top of that the inlet for the intercooler is 2" and the outlet for the compressor is 3".

Will I NEED to go to an FMIC or is there a SLIC that would work with this setup? I have two fluid coolers and a pusher fan mounted up front so I was hoping to stay away from an FMIC if possible.

 

[V6sleeper]

At the level your signature states Front mount is the only way to go...New Rjc if you cant find a good used Pte fm.

 

[Nick Micale]

My opinion is that you would be better off with an intercooler mounted up front than what ever coolers and a pusher fan you have there.

If you are dead-set on a SLIC, I am updating a customer with a front mount and removing his recent Precision unit with all the brackets, hardware and hoses.

 

[rodruckus]

If you wanna stay liquid, how about Spearco 2-230 1500cfm? I just picked one up and plan on installing it sometime down the line when I get around to changing up my set-up. 3" outlets,10" length, 9" height, and 4.5" thickness. Per Turbonetics, 1500cfm will support up to 1,125hp. I'm currently running a Spearco liquid with 2.5" outlets and Metco spare tire fuel cell for my reservoir.
1500cfm*.75=1,125hp

 

[nolanator]

If you wanna stay liquid, how about Spearco 2-230 1500cfm? I just picked one up and plan on installing it sometime down the line when I get around to changing up my set-up. 3" outlets,10" length, 9" height, and 4.5" thickness. Per Turbonetics, 1500cfm will support up to 1,125hp.
1500cfm*.75=1,125hp

This is interesting. I'm just wondering how it would need to be mounted. It would most likely require some tig welding correct, and/or fabrication for piping?

 

[nolanator]

At the level your signature states Front mount is the only way to go...New Rjc if you cant find a good used Pte fm.

The RJC pieces are very nice, but awfully pricey. I was looking into the GBodyParts FMIC. I'm really not making a ton of power, and most of the moderately sized intercoolers have an advertised rating of up to 800hp with is about 50 more than I will be making.

 

[nolanator]

My opinion is that you would be better off with an intercooler mounted up front than what ever coolers and a pusher fan you have there.

If you are dead-set on a SLIC, I am updating a customer with a front mount and removing his recent Precision unit with all the brackets, hardware and hoses.

I like SLIC designs, but I'm not positive that it would fit in there correctly with how big the compressor housing is on my turbo.

 

[Nick Micale]

Let me give you some data to back up my opinion if you are concerned about performance.

Saturday night at the track and it was hot as hell, like 90 degrees, and my air inlet temp leaving the line was 120 deg. and 140 deg. at the finish line.

Data from friends Buicks with SLIC show about 190-200 deg. at the finish line with less HP than my street car.

My street car has AC, a TE-45A turbo [66mm] and running about 19 psi boost and 120+ MPH.

 

[rodruckus]

Your right, part of the reason I say I will install down the line. It is wider than my current Spearco unit, and will take some finagling.

 

[nolanator]

Let me give you some data to back up my opinion if you are concerned about performance.

Saturday night at the track and it was hot as hell, like 90 degrees, and my air inlet temp leaving the line was 120 deg. and 140 deg. at the finish line.

Data from friends Buicks with SLIC show about 190-200 deg. at the finish line with less HP than my street car.

My street car has AC, a TE-45A turbo [66mm] and running about 19 psi boost and 120+ MPH.

I absolutely trust you and will most likely go with a front mounted design. I was just being stubborn about moving the fan and fluid coolers.

 

[nolanator]

Your right, part of the reason I say I will install down the line. It is wider than my current Spearco unit, and will take some finagling.

I'll probably end up with a front mount at the end of all this.
PS. i rated your post "funny" because i liked the word "finagling".

 

[nolanator]

to give you an idea of the clearance issue i'm having, here are my two turbo side by side. the one on the right is a Precision TE64 (66mm) (Yes I know it says Garrett! It's just the compressor housing)

 

[Mr.Spool]

I'm really not making a ton of power, and most of the moderately sized intercoolers have an advertised rating of up to 800hp with is about 50 more than I will be making.

the pte slic will handle your combo easily,and intake air temps with methanol is like bringing artic air into your motor.

 

[nolanator]

I don't think a SLIC will fit in its proper position. My compressor exits too far forward. There would have to be a tight 180 degree turn in the piping. Also, I probably won't be running methanol.

 

[GNBRETT]

the SLIC makes it a PITA ass to work on things and get in there. jus get the Gbody slic if ur not lookn to spend the money for jasons

 

[Mr.Spool]

I don't think a SLIC will fit in its proper position. My compressor exits too far forward. There would have to be a tight 180 degree turn in the piping. Also, I probably won't be running methanol.

Going to have to measure and look at things.making changes can have a cascade effect.the front mounts do free up space in the engine compartment.

 

[V6sleeper]

I don't think a SLIC will fit in its proper position. My compressor exits too far forward. There would have to be a tight 180 degree turn in the piping. Also, I probably won't be running methanol.

Your sig says alky, why not run it, your gonna need Boost+alky or high octane to get into the sweet spot with that turbo, it would defeat the purpose to run a 6766 at 17 psi.. Jmho

 

[V6sleeper]

I had a 6765dbb on my old combo and it didn't even get outta bed until 22 psi on my set up which was similar to your sig..
At which point you need alky/octane.

 

[Mr.Spool]

Like the title says I am moving to a new intercooler setup.

im also curious as why especially without alky,the atr liquid intercooler can handle a lot of power

 

[nolanator]

Your sig says alky, why not run it, your gonna need Boost+alky or high octane to get into the sweet spot with that turbo, it would defeat the purpose to run a 6766 at 17 psi.. Jmho

I'll be running e85 very shortly.