Plug Heat Range on E85

[dynoman]

With iron heads and e-85 I would use Autolite AR-133 0r AR-134

Nick , any issues with the 86-87 ECM with powerlogger and non-resistor plugs ? I was told that someone had problems with the ECM acting up ( resetting) when using non-resistor plugs . I just put a set of AR133's in as per your recommendation . Thanks , Sam

 

[Boost231]

Dynoman, I have seen some wit issues and others with no issue. If you have issues then try a different plug.

 

[TT/Ameasap]

Projected plug with resistor
Non projected plug and non resistor
Big dollar ($45ea) plug for non projected and resistor
Pick the poison

 

[achalmersman]

Ok I have to ask because I'm a race car newb. What is the fascination with a solid core "race" plug?

 

[achalmersman]

Nick , any issues with the 86-87 ECM with powerlogger and non-resistor plugs ? I was told that someone had problems with the ECM acting up ( resetting) when using non-resistor plugs . I just put a set of AR133's in as per your recommendation . Thanks , Sam

You may be talking about me. Here is a link to my thread. If you actually read through it you will see there were more people that figured out they were having the same exact problem I was having and the fix for them was the same as me. Back to resistor core plugs. I use a non-projected tip plug NGK YR5 but I'm also on stock heads and the OP is not...

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/index.php?threads/419814/

 

[TT/Ameasap]

I found this plug from Yellowbullet thread. resistor type plug and non projected tip and $5ea
R6252E-9

Nevermind....Not the 5/8'' hex

 

[Heskahoka]

Found a plug that works on TA heads that is resistor and does not cost a fortune. It is a NGK, resistor, non-projected and in the 8 heat range. I posted this in achalmersman's previous thread:

I found a plug that might work. I had a new engine built for me with the TA SI aluminum heads. I wanted a resistor plug that closely matched what was recommended by TA. I searched pretty deep on this board and elsewhere. From a post on this board, I finally found that norbs had found an NGK BCR8ES (stock number 5430) plug with the right characteristics (Thank you NORBS!) :
B= 14mm thread
C= 5/8" hex head non projected tip
R= Internal Resistor
8= heat range
E=3/4" reach gasketed
S= standard core electrode. non v groove

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/spark-plugs.347724/#post-2783801

They are a real b***h to find in the US. Finally found a source here and ordered 6:

http://www.ninjaperformance.com/ngk-bcr8es-non-projected-tip-resistor-set-p-219374.html

Waiting to test them after I get the engine installed.

Hope this helps someone.

 

[BEATAV8]

that looks like a good one.

 

[BEATAV8]

Looks like rock auto has them cheap....
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raf...ck[PHP_SESSION_ID]=re9jb3lo4mrnqk6r306rrgssp2

cheap until you pay shipping from the UK anyways... lol

 

[Heskahoka]

Looks like rock auto has them cheap....
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raf...ck[PHP_SESSION_ID]=re9jb3lo4mrnqk6r306rrgssp2

cheap until you pay shipping from the UK anyways... lol

Yeah I noticed the same thing from Rock Auto! These are primarily for Japanese turbo (Mitsubishi) and European turbo (Saab, Peugeot) cars. That is why is is not normally offered in the states.

 

[TT/Ameasap]

I bought a set and they are working great. My SM is not crashing every time I go WOT, so I am pretty much stuck with this plug and heat range.
Better than freaking out my ECM and blowing the motor tho.

 

[tsm3089]

I bought a set and they are working great. My SM is not crashing every time I go WOT, so I am pretty much stuck with this plug and heat range.
Better than freaking out my ECM and blowing the motor tho.

Where did you get them ?

 

[BEATAV8]

Found a plug that works on TA heads that is resistor and does not cost a fortune. It is a NGK, resistor, non-projected and in the 8 heat range. I posted this in achalmersman's previous thread:

I found a plug that might work. I had a new engine built for me with the TA SI aluminum heads. I wanted a resistor plug that closely matched what was recommended by TA. I searched pretty deep on this board and elsewhere. From a post on this board, I finally found that norbs had found an NGK BCR8ES (stock number 5430) plug with the right characteristics (Thank you NORBS!) :
B= 14mm thread
C= 5/8" hex head non projected tip
R= Internal Resistor
8= heat range
E=3/4" reach gasketed
S= standard core electrode. non v groove

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/spark-plugs.347724/#post-2783801

They are a real b***h to find in the US. Finally found a source here and ordered 6:

http://www.ninjaperformance.com/ngk-bcr8es-non-projected-tip-resistor-set-p-219374.html

Waiting to test them after I get the engine installed.

Hope this helps someone.

This is my new favorite. Working very well for me so far! Thanks for the recommendation.

 

[Heskahoka]

Cool! Looks like you ordered a few of them!
Looking forward to getting my engine in my car and giving them a go.

Thanks for the feedback.
M

 

[BEATAV8]

Haha $25 shipping for 6pcs, $27 shipping for 20pcs