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SignUp Now!Originally posted by TT/A1233
Give me a break!
You're suggesting hitting a kid's arm with a broom? Cops aren't trained to hit people with brooms....THINK THINK THINK:
LIABILITY!
Then you suggest pepper spray? You ever been hit with that stuff? Are you on crack?
Let me assure you a 6yr old threatening you and himself with an edged weapon (and has used that weapon on himself) isn't some sort of parlor game.
We must utilize our training and if we deviate from it must answer for the consequences of not using that training. IE....LAWSUITS. We're trained to use the Taser when confronted with a situation where your subject isn't responding to verbal commands. The after-effects of the Taser are usually completely gone after 15-30 seconds, no matter the subject's size. Pepper spray is at least 20 minutes and sometimes half a day.
Those officers did exactly as they were trained to do, no harm no foul. Can you imagine if they tried to forcibly remove that glass and he cut someone or himself. I can just see the attorney now:
"Officer, didn't you have a Taser stun gun with you? If so, why didn't you use it to incompaciate my client? Instead you chose to forcibly grab his arm using too much force resulting in his wrist being broken in 3 places?"
It's pretty obvious those on here criticizing the police haven't had any training in the use of these weapons, "The Force Continuum", civil liability and justifiable use of force and the law. Basically it sounds like clueless MMQB's.
Originally posted by Pablo
are you kidding me, if it is indeed a black kid expect the aclu, johnny cochran, jesse jackson, and al sharpton to come out in force.
Originally posted by bruce
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He was treated and taken to a hospital, where he was committed for psychiatric evaluation.
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If the kid was in a full rage, then yes, that level of force may have been necessary. Again, without being there, or having all the facts of the situation, passing judgment isn't fair.
I sure hope they bill the parents for all this.
IMO, for a 6 YO to get that out of control, would indicate the possibility of there being larger issues at home.
Yea well let me assure you know your own kid. I however DO NOT and am going home in the same condition as I went to work. If YOUR kid is threatening me (or him/herself) with an edged weapon (knife / glass...same thing...duhOriginally posted by Dillinger
I can assure you that had it been the cops kid with a piece of glass, he would have found another way. I myself have three children ages, 20, 18, and 13, and I can handle anyone of them with a piece of glass. These are suppose to be trained police officers, and yet they can't stop a six year old with a piece a glass, not a knife or a gun but a piece of glass. Your right they should have put that mad dog down. I think your the one on crack seeing that you brought it up?
Get a clue!!!!!!!!!
"Officer, didn't you have a Taser stun gun with you? If so, why didn't you use it to incompaciate my client? Instead you chose to forcibly grab his arm resulting in his wrist being broken in 3 places and a cut in his right eye causing his blindness?"
Originally posted by no-nos
yes i' am for real and no i'm not the kids parents ( real funny) i am a father of 2 boys and as far as me being to young to value life, I'M 35 AND SERVED SIX YEARS IN THE ARMY SO PLEASE SAVE THE SPEECH! (let's not make this a personal issue, i respect everyone's opinion and if i disagree with someone i don't start being a smart a$$.) who ever said this is ok, does'nt realize what your saying (imo) this means that everytime a kid acts-up the police have the right to go ahead and administer a shock of god knows how many thousand volts? tasers have been known to kill people in the past, this is a 6yr old kid suppose this was your child, how would you feel about it then, and please don't tell me "i'm fine with it", nothing will most likely happen here and i'll tell you why and you may disagree with this all you want but i've lived in miami all but 6 yrs of my life, this will get swept under the rug because this happened to a BLACK CHILD unless the black community leaders do something about this, nothing is going to happen, and for those who live here know that, police shoot blacks around here when their unarmed and then fabricate a story, it's been done before..
it's sad when you have three police officers dealing with one kid and the best thing they could come up with is this and remember this was not a spur of the moment type of situation, they had time to call the school and county police, and then they even tried talking to the kid, you mean they can't deal with a six yr old all 3 of them? i just hope they did'nt do any permanet damage, please keep in mind this is a six year old, IMO if a police officer can't deal with a 6yr old then they need some serious training. Again this is my opinion.
a little bit of info
TASERs are at best an unknown danger and at worst, two-time killers, according to a 1998 Amnesty International report ("United States of America: Rights for All--Police Brutality and Prison Abuse in the USA"). The report states, "In July, 1996, a 29-year-old woman, Kimberly Lashon Watkins, died after being shot by police with a TASER in Pomona, California. Just five months later, Andrew Hunt, Jr. died when Pomona police reportedly shot him several times with a TASER after he had been handcuffed."
The Lancet also articulated the need to study "injury threshholds" and the effects on nerves, adding that two people with no history of cardiac disease went into cardiac arrest between five and fifteen minutes after being hit with TASERs.
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Originally posted by sixgun86gn
My kid would never be in this situation because I raised him with discipline.Beleive me,he would not want to deal with me if I caught him doing something like this.He would BEG for that tazer!
How come nobody has thought about the fact that 6 year olds used to not do this kind of stuff.In this day and age we raise our kids to be adults too fast and most people are even afraid to discipline their kids.No wonder they think they can get away with murder.This is why when my kid gets too far out of line he gets his a$$ spanked just like I did as a kid.I have friends that were raised with that" spare the rod spoil the child" crap and they grew up to be losers or in jail.
Anybody remember a few years ago when a 6 yr old boy went to school and shot a 6yr old girl to death because he didn't like her?He got the gun at home fom his aunt&uncles crack house.The daddy was in jail.They interviewed the dad and he thought it was funny.They showed his aunt picking him up on the news and she brought him a toy and a happy meal.What kind of message do you think that sent?The judge told the little girls family to leave them alone.Sorry,but in my world I would waste that whole family over my kid and sit in jail myself.
You never heard of this kind of crap until the hippies and DR. Spock came around with that time-out BS.Used to be normal for a parent to spank a kid and send them to their room and this stuff was not happening all the time.This is IMHO where parents need to get back to.
I may sound racist saying this but oh well,I also notice that Blacks and Hispanics seem to pay less attention to what their kids are doing and rarely if ever discipline them.I figure this is the reason they are harder to deal with in society and make up the majority of criminals.Not saying this is the case all the time,but I see it more often with them.Where I live is a majority of Hispanics and you should see them at the supermarket and places like that...its pathetic.