PTE Super Stock Location Arrived!!

[jsta6]

Different technology. Tube and fin vs. bar and plate.

Also, how big are the inlet and outlet pipes?

 

[broke1]

I sent PTE an email asking them did they want to buy my Mease 24 row to prove that theres was the best stock location IC made like PTE was claiming.Never heard anything back from them.If it were the best like they claim,youd think theyd jump on the chance to prove it

 

[DR BOOST]

broke1,

which one do u think is better?
usually during r&d, companies will purchase a competitors item for comparison. there is no point buying one after.

precision is usually cutting edge technology wise.
when they design something, it is usually one of the best.

i doubt there will be a noticable difference between the two.

surej

 

[broke1]

I dont really know which one is better BUT if I made the claim it was the best(and they did) I would have a little bit more than my thoughts to back it up.Wouldnt you agree????

Kinda like saying youve got a streetable 7 second car,people want proof

I offered the IC to Precision a few months before there IC even came out.When they were hyping it as "the best stock location ever made".

I bet the biggest difference will be in fit and finish and ground clearance.I know the Mease fits like a glove and it sits up very high.Just look at the neck's of the Mease 24 row,theyre almost touching the core for max ground clearance,PTE's doesnt look like that.

 

[DR BOOST]

personally, i like the way the mease unit looks. the pte unit looks a bit more functional. if ya really wanna go fast, get a frontmount

im waiting for some one who knows something to chime in.

 

[broke1]

I doubt anyone has tested these IC's back to back.I will say if the PTE will flow as much as the Mease and only being 19 rows,it is impressive.If it has the ground clearance of the Mease as well,id buy one.

The Mease 24 row is on the "stock" GN and ive got a front mount for the other GN.

 

[jsta6]

Krykies!

I went to fill up my alchy today and I noticed that all but one of the screws is missing from the drivers side of the intercooler shroud.

 

[broke1]

Thats semi normal though,at least with the stocker.With the Mease the holes for the screws are just pilot holes.I ASSume with the PTE they were not???

 

[1ARUNEM]

Broke1,
I'll trade ya this hood you won't come pick up for that Mease I/C.
Especially seening as how you stole that GN from me.. Haha...

Deal???

 

[Raven]

I'm not putting the PTE unit down but I wouldn't trade my Mease unit for two of them. I'm very happy with it.

I'm sure the PTE unit is great and perhaps someday I'll try one. But I do not believe that their SLC is the "best one" out there.

The Mease flat out works and works well. I installed it by myself in just a few hours and the fit/finish/construction is second to none.

Good luck to those who have the PTE. It looks like a very nice piece.

 

[Mike Licht]

My question is do we buy by the number of rows or by core efficency and flow. More "rows" does not mean better, it means more rows. If a 20 rows flow 30 cfm each and a 15 rows flows 50 each with better cooling would the 20 still be better (numbers for example only) ? I agree a side by side test will be the answer. I have a PTE if someone wants to work it out. I will try to meet them (within reason) bring some test gear and lets get it done.
Mike

 

[broke1]

Well said Mike.I think with a slic another big factor is going to be ground clearance,probably even more so than overall flow for some of us.

Anyone want to take Mike up on his generous offer???

 

[Raven]

If I was closer, I would do it in a heartbeat. I've the Mease 24 row in my car and would love to side-by-side test those two intercoolers on the same day in the same car.

Maybe someone else can step up?

 

[jsta6]

I saw an article on the sy/ty's and they had a temp sensor before and after the intercooler. That sounds like something that would be needed for this test.

I have access to both the PTE and the mease, but I also have a job and four kids, so I just don't have the time to do a test.

Sounds like a job for Rick Jensen over at GMHTP.

Or maybe Joe or Don will step up?

 

[Mike Licht]

Somewhere I have a dual air temp gauge and probes for doing this. Raven, Ohio is not that far, maybe we can hook up sometime?
Mike

 

[ijames]

At a minimum you need before and after temperatures and pressures. Ideally use a car with an extender or extender extreme setup and record the maf, and try to keep the boost (pressure after intercooler) the same. Look at the TBN article for their procedure (excerpts are online at www.vortexbuicks.com, or something close to that, sorry ).

 

[EightSecV6]

If someone has both intercoolers (we dont use stock location intercoolers because front mounts are simply more efficient, so the test results would be subjective) and a car that is fast (something in the low 11's where a larger intercooler would actually provide a performance increase). I will offer FREE dyno time to do the test and provide the instruments to measure the temps and boost drop. 3 pulls each, no tuning, any takers?

 

[Raven]

Originally posted by Mike Licht
Somewhere I have a dual air temp gauge and probes for doing this. Raven, Ohio is not that far, maybe we can hook up sometime?
Mike

Mike, that would certainly be a possibility if we can arrange the logistics of it. PM or email me and we'll see if it's possible.

Thanks.

 

[Rick@GMHTP]

As long as the testing could be kept consistent, and like Bill said, a fast car was used, sounds like a hell of a story to me.

What do you think Bill, Mike, and Steve?

Rick

rick.jensen@primedia.com

 

[Razor]

Alky will skew your numbers.

How bout three tests.. two tests with different IC no alky.. one with methanol, no IC, just a u-shaped pipe.

Ohh i'm gonna get some heat on this



But ya guys know me.. I like a little conflict