Question for the powder coaters

[lnkncontiverto]

I have been going ape-shi+ with this Eastwood powder coating kit I got recently and have a question for those on here that have more experience. I have a new AC Delco Water Pump that I want to coat, but I'm not sure if putting the whole unit in the oven is a good idea. It doesn't look to have any rubber/heat sensitive seals, but I'm not sure what is going on in the bearings? Has anyone had these apart that can help me out? I really don't want to take it apart if I don't have to.

I'm also wondering if there is any trick to coating the IAC module. It doesn't look like the plastic portion will separate from the aluminum without destroying it; however, it looks terrible as oxidized aluminum sitting below a nicely coated throttle body. Have you tried a heat gun to apply a localized bake? Or do you think I will melt the nylon prior to curing the powder even with the heat gun?

TIA!:biggrin:

 

[aminga]

The IAC will unscrew.

There's a lot of stuff in the water pump that heat won't good for.

 

[cruzn57]

instead of a heat oven

use infared lamps, will work on some items but not all.

 

[gnxtc2]

I have been going ape-shi+ with this Eastwood powder coating kit I got recently and have a question for those on here that have more experience. I have a new AC Delco Water Pump that I want to coat, but I'm not sure if putting the whole unit in the oven is a good idea. It doesn't look to have any rubber/heat sensitive seals, but I'm not sure what is going on in the bearings? Has anyone had these apart that can help me out? I really don't want to take it apart if I don't have to.

I'm also wondering if there is any trick to coating the IAC module. It doesn't look like the plastic portion will separate from the aluminum without destroying it; however, it looks terrible as oxidized aluminum sitting below a nicely coated throttle body. Have you tried a heat gun to apply a localized bake? Or do you think I will melt the nylon prior to curing the powder even with the heat gun?

TIA!:biggrin:

Q.C. COATINGS
They are highly recommended and they are racers also.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[G NASTY]

Post up some pics. I bought the EW gun and have the ich also. What color have you been shooting? I don't think the pump will last 20 mins at 400x2

 

[charlief1]

Contact rmar (Ronnie Martin) on the board. He does it for a living and can give you the best info in what you can and can't do.

 

[lnkncontiverto]

Thanks for the info aminga, I didn't realize the IAC unscrewed.

I don't really have any extra funds in the budget for heat lamps or Q.C Coatings (I have seen their work, it is top notch). I have been baking all of my small parts in an old toaster oven. For the larger parts, I have borrowed the industrial oven at work.

Transdamm, Once you get started, you'll be coating everything. So far I have used "Eastwood OEM sparkle silver" on my Intake, TB, Up Pipe, Valve Covers, Accessory bracket, and Maf Pipe. Satin black on all the pulleys, fuel rail, and brackets. This weekend I'm going to try High Gloss Clear over all the Sparkle Silver parts. I will get some pics up of the final product.

Thanks CharlieF1!

One general question for the coating veterans, can I go over a part again with the same color to touch up blemishes, or do I have to strip it all and start over again? Does the coat that is already cured start burning/changing color if it is baked again?

 

[rmar]

Recoats are common with the same material, if it is 2 diff. materials you will need to do a adhesion test. You can't touch-up you must recoat the entire part. If you have handled the part(touched it use alcohol (rubbing) to wipe it down. Once the part cools down recoat and bake at the normal temp and time. The 1st. coat will reflow and the top coat will bond to it.

If you are going to topcoat with clear 1/2 bake the base coat/ let cool enough/ top coat with clear and full bake.


Oh, and I haven't had a water pump fail yet. I just won't guarantee it or warranty one.


Good luck.

 

[lnkncontiverto]

Thanks rmar! Unfortunately, the directions in my eastwood kit are basically useless.

 

[lnkncontiverto]

Spent some time coating this weekend. I'm quite happy with the results. Just thought I would share the results and my ultra-professional set up. Thanks again!

That is a reflection on the up pipe, not a blemish.

The Dog house hasn't been clear coated yet.

The lower intake manifold/water pump/valve covers haven't been coated at all yet.

 

[regal81455]

The "bug" has begun!! Its kinda like buying a boat, your going to get the case of the two-sies!! You'll next want to step up to a old electric house oven, then you'll want to build your self a cabinet, and so on....

Ask me how I know

Very nice job by the way!

 

[Bruce Urie]

Yeah, I'll have to agree! Very nice job. In actuallity, beautiful. You're doing a great job with that Eastwood kit. Now I want one. You mean to tell me that you're using a toaster oven to bake it in? What a neat concept.

I can understand now why you're going apechit with your powder coat set. I'd probably do the same thing as you. Man, I really like how you've done those parts.

I'm going to an old place down the road soon where they sell toaster ovens and get one. Are you sure you can use those?

Bruce '87 Grand National

 

[lnkncontiverto]

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[lnkncontiverto]

Yeah, I'll have to agree! Very nice job. In actuallity, beautiful. You're doing a great job with that Eastwood kit. Now I want one. You mean to tell me that you're using a toaster oven to bake it in? What a neat concept.

I can understand now why you're going apechit with your powder coat set. I'd probably do the same thing as you. Man, I really like how you've done those parts.

I'm going to an old place down the road soon where they sell toaster ovens and get one. Are you sure you can use those?

Bruce '87 Grand National

Thanks for the kind words. You have to be creative when you're a frugal perfectionist, like myself.

The toaster oven works great for the small parts. For the bigger parts, you just have to make friends with a single guy that doesn't mind you stinking up his kitchen . Just make sure to get a "6 slice" size. There are bigger ones out there, but this one was $40. I needed to get a toaster oven because I don't have a 220v in my garage to support a used kitchen oven.

 

[mat231v6]

nice work here are some links that will help you down the road if you want to do more things. Carburetor Rebuild - Carburetor Repair - Powder Coating A Carburetor
Top Coating - Top Powder Coating With Eastwood's Hotcoat

 

[rmar]

I have a big oven for sale..........

 

[charlief1]

I have a big oven for sale..........

Bragging won't get you anything Ronnie.:biggrin: LOL

 

[1quick6]

My birthday is coming up. Thanks for the idea! Looks great and it's a skill I'd like to pick up.

 

[Bruce Urie]

Thanks for the kind words. You have to be creative when you're a frugal perfectionist, like myself.

The toaster oven works great for the small parts. For the bigger parts, you just have to make friends with a single guy that doesn't mind you stinking up his kitchen . Just make sure to get a "6 slice" size. There are bigger ones out there, but this one was $40. I needed to get a toaster oven because I don't have a 220v in my garage to support a used kitchen oven.

You're welcome. I've got two 240volt outlets in my garage, just drag your oven over to my place here in Virginia. Bring your powdercoat stuff, too. I'd be GLAD to have you paint your stuff here (plus, you'll have to paint my stuff, too.) How's that?

I've baked my '69 Corvette's intake manifold in my Mom's oven once after painting it. But forgot to clean the underside panel on it that is used for the heat crossover...full of old oil. The whole house was smoking bad!! Stunk of burnt oil for about two months.:redface: My Dad refused to let me come over for about three months. My wife WILL NOT let me use her oven for powdercoating as she knows of the manifold story...damn, my parents told her before we were married....guess they were trying to warn her that's she's marrying a car guy (with all of his crazy defects)


Anyway, you've given me the confidence to get one of those powdercoat set. The results sure are amazing.

Bruce '87 Grand National

 

[regal81455]

My wife WILL NOT let me use her oven for powdercoating as she knows of the manifold story...damn, my parents told her before we were married....guess they were trying to warn her that's she's marrying a car guy (with all of his crazy defects)

Obviously we all make mistakes at one time or another in our life :wink: but on a serious note - once you've used an oven for powdercoat you should NEVER EVER use it for cooking again. Otherwise, aside from prep ( prep is everything, how many times have you heard that ) powdercoating is AMAZINGLY simple. I actual think its easier than spray. There are several kits out on the market that are geared towards a consumer - I personally went with a voltage adjustable unit from Caswell Plating but Im sure Eastwoods is good and I saw Columbia Coatings seems to have a nice one too! Good Luck!