Replacement OEM type vin tag???

[Dennis Grosenbach]

I met a another GN owner yesterday who's 87 had been stolen and the vin tag swapped. She wants to get it replaced with an OEM type. Is there any legal and correct way to get one made. She's the original owner and wants to get it done right. She has made contact with someone that says they can make her one but they need a picture of an original like mine to get the job done. This kind of make me raise and eyebrow???? I will clue her into this site today so she can set up an account and follow along and get involved.

 

[novaderrik]

not legal... the state issued VIN is the one that matters now.

 

[charlief1]

The manufacturer made the original VIN tag and it was registered by the dealer to the state it was purchased in. If that VIN tag is damaged the the state will re-issue a new VIN but the original is classified as a stolen or totaled. If someone replicates the original VIN tag then the feds will get involved since it's considered fraud. It's 100% illegal to mess with a VIN tag or replicate it so I'd steer as far away from the lady in question as possible. Sounds like they will replicate yours and then file some sort of claim against the vehicle in question to take it from you.

 

[kidglok]

The manufacturer made the original VIN tag and it was registered by the dealer in the state the customer lives in.

Fixed it for ya


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[charlief1]

Fixed it for ya

Nope. If you purchase a vehicle from a dealer in another state it has to be registered in the dealers state, and then transfered to the owner when he gets the vehicle to it's home state. Each dealer is licensed in 1 state only and can transfer title only in the state registered. Even if said dealer has another location in a different state the vehicle would have to be transfered to the other location before it was registered in other state. I worked for a dealer that had several locations throughout the country and found this out.

 

[kidglok]

Nope. If you purchase a vehicle from a dealer in another state it has to be registered in the dealers state, and then transfered to the owner when he gets the vehicle to it's home state. Each dealer is licensed in 1 state only and can transfer title only in the state registered. Even if said dealer has another location in a different state the vehicle would have to be transfered to the other location before it was registered in other state. I worked for a dealer that had several locations throughout the country and found this out.

Charlie, I do this for a living lol

 

[TurboDave]

Nope. If you purchase a vehicle from a dealer in another state it has to be registered in the dealers state, and then transfered to the owner when he gets the vehicle to it's home state. Each dealer is licensed in 1 state only and can transfer title only in the state registered. Even if said dealer has another location in a different state the vehicle would have to be transfered to the other location before it was registered in other state. I worked for a dealer that had several locations throughout the country and found this out.

Not true. I bought my 2012 Lincoln in NC last year. The dealership registered in TN for me. I didn't have to have it regerstered in NC, and then transfered to TN when I got home. My TN tags came right off my Honda and installed on the Lincoln the day I purchased the Lincoln and traded the Honda in.

 

[charlief1]

If you try that in TX and get caught you'll end up in Jail Dave. Plates cannot go on sold vehicle or be used on a different vehicle and if caught the vehicle gets towed and the owner gets a free night in the pokey.

 

[TurboDave]

Our laws are different here. No laws were broken, It was registered in TN the minute we signed the papers, and in TN the plates move with the owner.

 

[Phoneguy]

Missouri allows plate transfer as well. Buy a new vehicle and you pay a transfer fee to move the plates, unless the plates are not for the same type of vehicle( truck vs car) .

Bryan

 

[gnxtc2]

If a dealer buys a vehicle from John Doe, the dealer must transfer the title into the company's name. Once the title is in the dealer's name, they can sell it to anyone. The dealer does not have to register the vehicle.

Billy T
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[S10xGN]

If a dealer buys a vehicle from John Doe, the dealer must transfer the title into the company's name. Once the title is in the dealer's name, they can sell it to anyone. The dealer does not have to register the vehicle.

Billy T
gnxtc2@aol.com

Dealers in TX don't even have to do that. I traded in a Mark VII for my my '96 Impala SS back then and got parking tickets and jail threats from HPD for several years after. The stealership left it in my name while some ass-clown was wreaking havoc over in Houston with it. A bud had it worse, his trade-in was involved in a hit & run and the cops had a warrant out for him. At least now, our DPS has an online affidavit form you can sign when you trade in a vehicle where you state you no longer own it...

 

[groumoutis]

Here in good ole Indiana you can transfer a plate as long as it is truck to truck or car to car. However the bad part of Indiana law is that if you buy a used car out of state you have to have the police run the VIN before you can get plates to ensure it isn't a stolen vehicle. This is to "protect" the consumer! You cannot have the police run the VIN before you purchase the vehicle. So you have to buy the stolen car before you can find out it is stolen! How is that protection? Ramblings over where were we?

Back to the original post. I would let the state handle the VIN. Too much gray area there that can turn into an orange jumpsuit and shiny chained together bracelets!


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[Heisenberg]

I met a another GN owner yesterday who's 87 had been stolen and the vin tag swapped. She wants to get it replaced with an OEM type. Is there any legal and correct way to get one made. She's the original owner and wants to get it done right. She has made contact with someone that says they can make her one but they need a picture of an original like mine to get the job done. This kind of make me raise and eyebrow???? I will clue her into this site today so she can set up an account and follow along and get involved.

Where do I start?

She has "made contact" with someone who "says" they can make her one?
Where pray tell would you find such a person.
Reminds me of the shady dood in the NYC alley - whispering "Psssss... hey buddy...Need a watch?"
But I suppose one can find just about anything on the internet. Ahem....

And - "They" need a picture of an original - "like yours"
A picture - not an original Regal VIN plate to replicate?
A picture - like on Google images? Without the dimensions, color, etc.?
Oh - you mean - a picture of a VIN plate that looks just like every other millionth VIN plate that are affixed to cars?
That sounds dumb on it's face.
And - "like yours"
Yeah right.
I don't even let people look at my car - let alone my VIN plate.

It sounds as if when the car was stolen, the thieves removed the Dash area VIN plate.
I wonder if the state where she resides issued an entirely new VIN number?
Or - if the original VIN plate was removed - the new VIN plate simply has the original VIN number?
I'm guessing she was issued a new VIN number.
And one of those funky plates that are riveted onto the body.
Which is kind of quirky since the original VIN number or at least the last 6 digits are also stamped on the engine, trans, driver's side top of frame rail, and marked on the driver's side door tag, as well as the trunk SPID label.
So you end up with a new VIN number that doesn't really mean too much.
Other than - they listed the previous VIN as Stolen.
So you have a body with a new VIN number riveted to it - but driver's door GVWR tag, SPID label, frame, engine and trans with the old VIN number. Cookoo.

In any event - if she wanted to have said "person" replicate a VIN tag similar to the one that affixes to the dash area, she or "they" surely don't need yours to do it.
They can get a VIN tag from any junkyard and copy it.
I suppose - who would even check if she were to have the new VIN replicated like the original look.
All the DMV people do is look at paper.

But it all sounds like too much drama.
You sure this "other owner / Girl " you just met didn't cloud your thinking for a minute?

 

[gn4u2c]

Stop helping this moron ! zero post and you think this is legit for some girl he met... you hear girl and al forget your brains LOL... play with vin = go to jail.

 

[John Larkin]

If it has the state issued VIN plate riveted into the door jamb, then it doesn't matter what is on the dash anymore. That is the new VIN of the car. So you can rivet anything you want in the OEM spot and it won't matter.

 

[gnxtc2]

Dealers in TX don't even have to do that. I traded in a Mark VII for my my '96 Impala SS back then and got parking tickets and jail threats from HPD for several years after. The stealership left it in my name while some ass-clown was wreaking havoc over in Houston with it. A bud had it worse, his trade-in was involved in a hit & run and the cops had a warrant out for him. At least now, our DPS has an online affidavit form you can sign when you trade in a vehicle where you state you no longer own it...

That's why the vehicle needs to be put in the dealer's name.

Billy T.
gnxtc2@aol.com

 

[Buhog]

Altering vin tags not matter the intent is not a good idea. Don't do it no matter what state you live. How would anyone on this or any other site know the story. For all anyone knows except the state that issued vin tag the car not stolen? If someone is offering new tags over the Internet or mail is comiting a felony.


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[novaderrik]

since we're talkin about VINs- did you know that on some later model cars, the dash VIN isn't even riveted to the body? discovered this when i was taking the dash out of my 95 Dodge Neon race car (don't laugh- it's an entry level road racer that i'm building for the Chumpcar series that will probably beat 95% of every G body in existence around a road course... also gonna do some ice racing with it...)... the VIN is attached to the plastic dash, so a VIN swap on one of those cars is as easy as putting a new dash in it..

 

[Buhog]

Neon is a great car( now laughing), its vin stamped on every panel plus as you would know a location more or less hidden.


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