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You love the smell, but you don't realize what its doing to you!.

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Lead is poisonous in all forms; the poison is cumulative and the toxic effects are many and severe. Ingestion of a large amount of any soluble lead salt or organo-lead compound (eg lead nitrate, lead oxide, lead sulfate, tetraethyl lead) may cause (in increasingly higher doses) poor appetite, nausea, pain, leg cramps, muscle weakness, damage to the brain, kidneys and reproductive organs, and death. Behaviour effects can include mood changes, disturbed sleep, memory loss, and poor attention span. Lead and lead-containing compounds are especially dangerous to the health of children and the unborn child. Young children exposed to lead and lead compounds can experience a decrease in intelligence scores, learning difficulties, slow growth and defective hearing. Lead exposure during pregnancy can contribute to premature birth, low birthweight and abortion. Lead chromate is classified by the NOHSC as a category 2 carcinogen (substance that should be regarded as if it is carcinogenic to humans).

Gasoline and diesel contain the compound tetraethyl lead, which issued to raise the octane rating of the fuel and as an anti-knocking agent in the engine. This compound is particularly dangerous since it can be absorbed directly through the skin. Tetraethyl lead has been responsible for severe lead poisoning of gas station attendants and refinery workers. We found out that lead inhaled shortens memory and attention span and may cause digestive problems. Other serious problems that adults might come across are high blood pressure and nervous disorders .

Heres a good link on leaded gas

http://www.omegamotors.com/enjoy/gasoline/gasoline_13.html

!!So your sure you want to run race gas all the time.
 
So just by driving a car that runs leaded fuel we run a higher risk of the things you mentioned?
In the levels we're exposed to it I guess I just don't think it could be that dangerous...and I run straight 110 all the time.
 
I'm surprised no one has mentioned another alternative. That is the Max Effort chip. I run leaded race fuel all the time and with the ME chip I don't have to worry about burning up O2 sensors. Get yourself an ME chip and an EGT gauge and let 'er rip! :D
 
Originally posted by norbs
You love the smell, but you don't realize what its doing to you!.

Read below:

Lead is poisonous in all forms; the poison is cumulative and the toxic effects are many and severe. Ingestion of a large amount of any soluble lead salt or organo-lead compound (eg lead nitrate, lead oxide, lead sulfate, tetraethyl lead) may cause (in increasingly higher doses) poor appetite, nausea, pain, leg cramps, muscle weakness, damage to the brain, kidneys and reproductive organs, and death. Behaviour effects can include mood changes, disturbed sleep, memory loss, and poor attention span. Lead and lead-containing compounds are especially dangerous to the health of children and the unborn child. Young children exposed to lead and lead compounds can experience a decrease in intelligence scores, learning difficulties, slow growth and defective hearing. Lead exposure during pregnancy can contribute to premature birth, low birthweight and abortion. Lead chromate is classified by the NOHSC as a category 2 carcinogen (substance that should be regarded as if it is carcinogenic to humans).

Gasoline and diesel contain the compound tetraethyl lead, which issued to raise the octane rating of the fuel and as an anti-knocking agent in the engine. This compound is particularly dangerous since it can be absorbed directly through the skin. Tetraethyl lead has been responsible for severe lead poisoning of gas station attendants and refinery workers. We found out that lead inhaled shortens memory and attention span and may cause digestive problems. Other serious problems that adults might come across are high blood pressure and nervous disorders .

Heres a good link on leaded gas

http://www.omegamotors.com/enjoy/gasoline/gasoline_13.html

!!So your sure you want to run race gas all the time.

F it. Something is going to kill us all eventually. Might as well get poisoned by the Buick as get cancer, liver disease, heart attack, or "fill in the __________ here". :)

I had an uncle that drank whiskey and smoked cigars every day of his life. Rumor has it that those habits are bad for you. ;) He lived to be 92 and was still kicking up until the day he died.
 
Ok no more race gas:rolleyes: no more brake cleaner,no more brake dust,no more lock tite on the tip of my figures,no more engine oil,no more trans fluid,no more coolant,no more sunoco gold,and no more going to the track when someone is doing a burnout to much of that burn rubber can cause cancer.Guys you all get my point i dont think you can hide from so many types of poisons its everywhere.
 
race gas

I run Sunoco 110 all the time. I tried and have alcohol injection and found it was a pain to tune. Also I don't have to worry that the alcohpl pump may quit running and scatter my engine. It is a good feeling to know you have the octane in the tank to support the amount of boost you want to run.Bruce
 
I think Humberto is right. Because ANYTHING in huge amounts can kill you, and eventually something will. I've quit smoking, and am trying to get in shape and that scares me because I know there's a Greyhound bus waiting around any given corner to run me over. :eek:
 
Re: race gas

Originally posted by bose
I run Sunoco 110 all the time. I tried and have alcohol injection and found it was a pain to tune. Also I don't have to worry that the alcohpl pump may quit running and scatter my engine. It is a good feeling to know you have the octane in the tank to support the amount of boost you want to run.Bruce

No pain in tuning alcohol. Given the rite conditions. So your statement has no merit. Believe it or not, once set..no touchy it anymore.

Hey a windshield washer pump on some fish tank hose classifies as alcohol injection. And yes that winshield washer pump does stand a good chance of failing. But becuase of poor design and choices, does that make it bad in any form?

"Why did you go to the track?" Um I wanted to go fast..wrong..You wanted to see if something wouldnt break. Dont race if you dont want failures. Buy better parts, better support, better better to try and keep stuff from failing. Why else is there innovation is parts/design.

500+ passes at 25+ PSI boost..no HG's have let go yet..Tranny's yes, rear yes..motor no.

Dont get alcohol, it breaks transmissions and rear ends.. bad stuff.

Spend the money on good stuff and dont complain when cheap stuff breaks, or isnt friendly to figure out ;)

Sorry bout your bad experiences, but.. its not how it is. I have proof it aint..

Peace
 
Bose dont give up on tuneing with the alcohol once dialed in its well worth it.With so much info and people wanting to help each other on this site i find it hard to beleive that you havnt been able to get it close.Now go to the alcohol section and do some searching. ;)
 
Well, i run c-16 in my car of course, but i would just use it for the track. I would rather do alky and pump gas for the street, at $15 a gal up here c-16 is a bit expensive at 10 mpg. Dan k i think you be ok, just don't start sniffing tailpipes, or drinking it. Also my cats will melt down on leaded fuel, so when i race i'll have to take them off, with my flange system and gasket set up it takes a whole 60 seconds.
 
I did not need to see that :p

Originally posted by strikeeagle
Let's see.

Let's say you drive 1,000 miles per year.

You have a heavy foot and average 10 MPG.

That's 100 gallons at $8.00 per gallon or $800.

2,000 miles = $1,600

3,000 miles = $2,400

Yikes!!!

You're the man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D
 
Re: Race gas only.

Originally posted by TurboT231
I agree with everyone about running it all the time, it's awesome the only bad thing is you need to add a little lubricant like marvel mystery oil or Klotz's Uplon fuel lube to the gas cause it rust's the hell out of the inside of the heads and the exhaust housing on the turbo's, downpipes and exhaust systems if there not stainless.


Not sure where you picked that up, but its not true. Its no more corrosive than reguler unleaded pump gas. Even if it were condusive to causing rust, adding oil to it would not accomplish anything except for lubing the pump, it wouldn't help anything post- combustion. The oil would be burned.

:confused:
 
Race Gas.

Hey Sam, if you run leaded race fuel all the time crack loose your downpipe and take a peek inside at the exhaust housing of your turbo, compared to one of a motor that only run's UNLEADED fuel and then tell me how there is no difference?
 
The oil added is to prevent bore wear, from the alky on the cyl. walls. One of the drawbacks of alky injection is cyl bore wear is increased, as far as i know.
 
Only problem with alcohol is getting the tune wrong and spraying an excessive amount. If so then you would get cylinder issues, wash down, etc. But thats the same as running your car at 850's for O2's.. I have already seen enough motors that have been run on alcohol internally..there has been zero issues.

Yup..you run the motor at 25-30 PSI..expect higher wear and less longetivity. This is a given.

Lube..hell you run a PCV that sucks oil vapor into your motor. Anyone lift theyre plenum and look..there will be an oil film in there, if anything alky will help clear that stuff out if anything. The lube is only needed for steel roller pumps. And pump dependant. Add a 5% water mix and it helps with carbon deposit removal..those same carbon deposits can cuase issues(detonation).

Two years on the same GM O2, so it doesnt hurt o2 sensors. Doesnt hurt the cast pistons, no signs on cylinder walls, I cant see any problem than a mis guided attempts to use it. Only sprays under boost so normal driving its not being used. makes you motor detonate less, so save the bearings from crunching. And given the rite system will protect even from blown wastegate hoses..

There are plenty of Myths.. get some real data and not speculation. yeah yeah..I'm biased.. but find real data.. once shot into the up-pipe..that stuff is gone...aka vaporized.

The money I have saved not using race gas over the last two years, I could buy a few motors..

12 thousand miles= 10,000 dollars saved on race gas + sensors, grief/aggravation, storage, etc..

So if my motor, hypothetically, gets worn down, I think the savings bought me a few motors.. 10 k buys two really trick 109 long blocks..
 
HEY GUY'S NO NEED TO WORRY ABOUT FUEL.

YOU WILL HURT THE MOTOR BEFORE YOU HAVE ENOUGH TIME
TO GET CANCER.

IT'S A BUICK.

SPIN BEARING,BLOW HEAD GASKET,ROD KNOCK,CRANK BREAK

YOU ALL KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
 
I've run straight Cam-II in my one GN for years now. I love the smell of Cam-II in the morning it smells like sniffffff...V-I-C-T-O-R-Y. So what if it kills me life's too short to sweat the small details, damn that chit smells good.
 
Maybe you should buy my fast system john, and you will keep it together!
 
I run 93 gas and c-16 All the time , Duel fuel system is the way to go if you want to run race gas and cruise your car alot too . Turn on the race gas when you want Max perf , turn it off for those days when you feel like taking a ride .
 
Re: Race Gas.

Originally posted by TurboT231
Hey Sam, if you run leaded race fuel all the time crack loose your downpipe and take a peek inside at the exhaust housing of your turbo, compared to one of a motor that only run's UNLEADED fuel and then tell me how there is no difference?


OK, theres no difference. My car was on strictly pump gas for a year or so when I first bought it. My buddies T Type saw only race fuel, 116 leaded. The motors looked exactly the same when we tore them down. I'm curious as to who filled your head full of this? Woder how all those cars from years back ran for so long with leaded fuel? Bottom line, race fuel will not cause rust, and you won't find a single peice of evidence to back that up.

Hey norbs, this guy is talking about adding oil to race fuel, not alky. And the oil added to alky is for pump lubrication, not cylinder wear.
 
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