Isn't the alky tank near a hot engine considered a fire hazard. I thought someone said the new kit locates it somewhere safer. I don't want to think about it, but what if you had a hard impact on the front end and ruptured the tank. Couldn't that get ugly quick, other than the thought of a wrecked car.
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Alcoholic Twins
Here's were I mounted my alcohol tank. It's made from 321 stainless. I used Alky Controls pump and controller, but I had to use an alcohol compatable NOS valve because I inject the alcohol into each port. Kinda complicated, but then so am I
Check out this thread: http://turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192814
For more pictures
Here's were I mounted my alcohol tank. It's made from 321 stainless. I used Alky Controls pump and controller, but I had to use an alcohol compatable NOS valve because I inject the alcohol into each port. Kinda complicated, but then so am I
Check out this thread: http://turbobuick.com/forums/showthread.php?t=192814For more pictures
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You have other fire hazards like the rubber fuel lines on the drivers side, transmission fluid through rubber hoses, oil through oil cooler lines, etc.. all which can ignite.
Alcohol can ignite if exposed to an open fire. Heat wont ignite alcohol unless pretty intense, and typically alcohol will evaporate before igniting. It is not as flammable as gasoline.
You have options, typically the issue is cost. I have done a few Buicks high 8 sec/low 9 sec and used fuel cells in those applications. Just recently setup Dennis Hogans car with a 1 gallon cell in place of where the battery is located. Gene made the brackets attaching it to the core support. just adds $$ and complexity.
Neat thing is you have from GM a "firewall" to protect the occupants. This is why these systems are typically done under the ood where this type of protection is afforded. At least the system is not pressurized while driving around, so gravity would be the only issue in case of an impact. And if the impact where so severe to rupture the tank, you have far greater issues to worry about.
Even a stainless steel tank with steel lines can be ruptured. And as always, you can mix water with your alcohol making the system completely non-flammable. The down side is a degredation in performance in exchange for an extra degree of safety.
HTH
Alcohol can ignite if exposed to an open fire. Heat wont ignite alcohol unless pretty intense, and typically alcohol will evaporate before igniting. It is not as flammable as gasoline.
You have options, typically the issue is cost. I have done a few Buicks high 8 sec/low 9 sec and used fuel cells in those applications. Just recently setup Dennis Hogans car with a 1 gallon cell in place of where the battery is located. Gene made the brackets attaching it to the core support. just adds $$ and complexity.
Neat thing is you have from GM a "firewall" to protect the occupants. This is why these systems are typically done under the ood where this type of protection is afforded. At least the system is not pressurized while driving around, so gravity would be the only issue in case of an impact. And if the impact where so severe to rupture the tank, you have far greater issues to worry about.
Even a stainless steel tank with steel lines can be ruptured. And as always, you can mix water with your alcohol making the system completely non-flammable. The down side is a degredation in performance in exchange for an extra degree of safety.
HTH
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I Agree 100% with Razor. 
NOTHING is 100% failsafe. Even the highest engineered vehicle EVER made burned up in our atmosphere because of a piece of foam! 
Or forget to tighten a fuel line or oil hose and you'll have problems. I have installed a few of Razors kits and never have had even a drip. That's more than I can say about even racing fuel cells. We blew up a multi-million dollar hydroplane because the fuel cell manufacturer machined the fuel cap .014" too small for the "O"-ring to seal it...........It leaked and well............there was a BIG explosion. Fortunately the boat had pullled out of MY hands on start-up (then died) and floated about 30 ft away from the pier and when the driver tried to start it.........it went BOOM Why it didn't blow-up on initial start-up we'll never know but alot of people would have been hurt. Boy! were the News guys happy! "Did you get that????...you got that right?" and the camera man had to clean his shorts 
Ken B.
NOTHING is 100% failsafe. Even the highest engineered vehicle EVER made burned up in our atmosphere because of a piece of foam! Or forget to tighten a fuel line or oil hose and you'll have problems. I have installed a few of Razors kits and never have had even a drip. That's more than I can say about even racing fuel cells. We blew up a multi-million dollar hydroplane because the fuel cell manufacturer machined the fuel cap .014" too small for the "O"-ring to seal it...........It leaked and well............there was a BIG explosion. Fortunately the boat had pullled out of MY hands on start-up (then died) and floated about 30 ft away from the pier and when the driver tried to start it.........it went BOOM
Why it didn't blow-up on initial start-up we'll never know but alot of people would have been hurt. Boy! were the News guys happy! "Did you get that????...you got that right?" and the camera man had to clean his shorts Ken B.
