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TURBOV6

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Well I got a brand new TE45a just waiting on what to do next.

I was planning on some 72lbs injectors and a 3500-3600 stall TC to go with it, after talking to Jack C. today I might end up selling it. I want some opinions on the Turbonetics CPT66 ball bearing turbo. I already have a 3k stall TC that will work well with the CPT66 and the injectors will be enough.

I am not palnning on doing any head work anytime soon and probaly want my GN to be very streetable.
 
How much did you pay for the 45a? For what I read it should be good until low to mid 10. Correct me if I'm wrong fellows! How fast you trying to go with her?
 
With stock heads and cam you will need to crank the boost up to 30psi or more for the compressor to hit its sweet spot. The stock heads and cam will really narrow the power potential with the T-66. What are your goals anyway. You may be better off springing for a smaller turbo and good heads rather than goin with just the turbo. It will only cost a couple hundred more and potentially make a lot more power.
 
What were you planning on doing with the TE45? Its a 130mph turbo that requires a good stall, ported heads, and a bigger cam. I think you need to figure out your goals before buying anything else. You will need another fuel pump to use either of those turbos to their potential. One isnt going to cut it without methanol.
 
This is the situation not actuals goals I want to achieve.

Looks like my turbo exhaust seal is going so a rebuild is going to cost me x amount of dollars in which it might be better just buying a new turbo.

With our track comming to a closure in April 2006 it don't make sense of me going with my original plans with the TE45a, I want a very streetable car. If I go with the CPT66 I can keep my TC and injectors. I want the biggest turbo with my current modifications.

Is the CPT66 that big of turbo for stock heads/cam? Maybe Jack can give some of his input :smile:
 
A rebuild is around $350, the BB66 has to over a grand.

After looking at your mods list, I say keep the 45a with a .63 exh housing. With a 3500 lock up stall converter it will spool and drive nicely while pulling like madd.
 
DR.BOOSTER said:
A rebuild is around $350, the BB66 has to over a grand.

After looking at your mods list, I say keep the 45a with a .63 exh housing. With a 3500 lock up stall converter it will spool and drive nicely while pulling like madd.

If I sell the 45a and use save the money instead of rebuilding the 44 it would easliy pay for the 66.

Keep the 45a with a 3500 stall convertor?
 
TURBOV6 said:
This is the situation not actuals goals I want to achieve.

Looks like my turbo exhaust seal is going so a rebuild is going to cost me x amount of dollars in which it might be better just buying a new turbo.

With our track comming to a closure in April 2006 it don't make sense of me going with my original plans with the TE45a, I want a very streetable car. If I go with the CPT66 I can keep my TC and injectors. I want the biggest turbo with my current modifications.

Is the CPT66 that big of turbo for stock heads/cam? Maybe Jack can give some of his input :smile:
I wouldnt be suprised if good heads and cam were worth 80-100hp with the 66 if the boost was turned up over the stockers.You still need more fuel pump to maximize either turbo.You will need at least 60lb/hr injectors to avoid running out of fuel. Or a methanol set up with 50's.
 
bison said:
I wouldnt be suprised if good heads and cam were worth 80-100hp with the 66 if the boost was turned up over the stockers.You still need more fuel pump to maximize either turbo.You will need at least 60lb/hr injectors to avoid running out of fuel. Or a methanol set up with 50's.


I am planning of going with bigger injectors anyways. I always have 100 unleaded so no need for alky injection.

Is the 45 simular in sice vs. the 66?
 
TURBOV6 said:
I am planning of going with bigger injectors anyways. I always have 100 unleaded so no need for alky injection.

Is the 45 simular in sice vs. the 66?
100 octane isnt enough for 25-30psi boost. You need more than that to be safe. Alky and 50's(cheap) or 60's (a little more expensive) would be my route in you situation if you want to run 25-30psi and take advantage of the turbo. You wont need to add a fuel pump and that will save you at least $400 if you were to put in a double pumper which is almost the cost of one of Julio's alky kits. You could run 93 and meth and save money in the long run too.
 
If your goals are streetable with your current converter the BB turbo should work perfectly, if your costs are in line with what you want to spend.

The 42's will get you about 23psi. boost with alky. and a good chip like a turbotweak chip.

With no heads and cam. I doubt the single 340 will be a problem even with upgraded injectors in the future.

I was able to run 25psi. on my TA62 before my bosch 42's were static, 20 degree timing.

I would definately get direct scan and walk the boost up from 20psi. and watch the numbers.

Easy to do for a streetable car.

Just my .02.
 
bison said:
100 octane isnt enough for 25-30psi boost. You need more than that to be safe. Alky and 50's(cheap) or 60's (a little more expensive) would be my route in you situation if you want to run 25-30psi and take advantage of the turbo. You wont need to add a fuel pump and that will save you at least $400 if you were to put in a double pumper which is almost the cost of one of Julio's alky kits. You could run 93 and meth and save money in the long run too.

I am not planning on running that kind of boost levels on the street. 25lbs + on C116 then that will be idea. I am not planning on running alky because I always fill up 100 unleaded (Xylene mix).
 
TURBOV6 said:
I am not planning on running that kind of boost levels on the street. 25lbs + on C116 then that will be idea. I am not planning on running alky because I always fill up 100 unleaded (Xylene mix).
Why would you want to run low boost on the street? I never would want to get caught with my pants down. My car makes the same power on the street as it does at the strip or the dyno, and quite possibly more on the street than the dyno with the added airflow over the intercooler. Imo the car should be in kill mode all the time. You would save a ton of money in the long run with the meth over the expensive high octane gasoline even if you used it as an anti-detonant only.
 
bison said:
Why would you want to run low boost on the street? I never would want to get caught with my pants down. My car makes the same power on the street as it does at the strip or the dyno, and quite possibly more on the street than the dyno with the added airflow over the intercooler. Imo the car should be in kill mode all the time. You would save a ton of money in the long run with the meth over the expensive high octane gasoline even if you used it as an anti-detonant only.

I run 22lbs on the street. Why would you even want to run anymore boost especially the tires won't even hold at that power? I can't even control the car now :eek: even with those fat 315's in the rear :D

Also to let you know we don't have too much road here in hawaii and our speed limit on the interstate is around 55-60 :frown:
 

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TURBOV6 said:
I run 22lbs on the street. Why would you even want to run anymore boost especially the tires won't even hold at that power? I can't even control the car now :eek: even with those fat 315's in the rear :D

Also to let you know we don't have too much road here in hawaii and our speed limit on the interstate is around 55-60 :frown:
I can hit it in 3rd @28psi with some DOT slicks like m&H's and theres no spin when their hot. Its like a bullet up to 130mph.
 
The TE45a is a damn good turbo that will make tons of power to 30+psi, however it needs a good cam and heads to really make its potential power. I just sold a TE45a and went with a smaller unit (CP44 w/ .82 housing) that has a sweet spot in the lower boost levels....unless your spinning the TE45a upwards of 25psi your not really in its efficiency range. I would never consider that turbo to be a good "street" turbo unless you have a real loose TC, but it does pull like made once it gets going!
 
The TE45a is a damn good turbo that will make tons of power to 30+psi, however it needs a good cam and heads to really make its potential power. I just sold a TE45a and went with a smaller unit (CP44 w/ .82 housing) that has a sweet spot in the lower boost levels....unless your spinning the TE45a upwards of 25psi your not really in its efficiency range. I would never consider that turbo to be a good "street" turbo unless you have a real loose TC, but it does pull like made once it gets going! BTW, if I were you I'd buck up for a alky kit and enjoy the overall benefits of Methanol, especially were you live....can't imagine that race fuel is cheap over there.
 
With all the many help from you guys the 45 is up for sale. I might stay away with the CPT66 also.

Looks like I might consider the PT61 or the new GT6131E
 
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